Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Johann Schmitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > I do not believe we have discovered any useful pattern, other than > that is seems to happen more frequently with people who do not run > full world updates. I don't think that running a world update should be valid solution to solve blocking issues

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote: > I was considering writing a news item for it but we discussed it on IRC > and decided that users are really expected to be able to handle > themselves, especially wrt to: > > 1. using 'emerge -Du @world' to upgrade their systems, > > 2. reading the block

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/11/2013 01:45, yac wrote: > On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:19:21 -0400 > "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > >> On 11/02/2013 06:09 PM, yac wrote: >>> I don't know how this releng stuff works. I bet there is lot of devs >>> who don't. >> >> This is why you should announce risking commits. Because you may

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Ben de Groot
On 3 November 2013 17:02, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 03/11/2013 01:45, yac wrote: >> >> Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there? > > It's always been "emerge -avuND world" > >> >> I personally got used to -uaNDv and I don't even know what exactly is >> the difference and it's impl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread yac
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 03/11/2013 01:45, yac wrote: > > On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:19:21 -0400 > > "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > > > >> On 11/02/2013 06:09 PM, yac wrote: > >>> I don't know how this releng stuff works. I bet there is lot of > >>> devs who don't.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread yac
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote: > > I was considering writing a news item for it but we discussed it on > > IRC and decided that users are really expected to be able to handle > > themselves, especially wrt to: > > > > 1. using '

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread heroxbd
Alan McKinnon writes: > One set of questions that were never answered and probably do deserve > some kind of notification: > > 1. What exactly is python-exec anyway? > 2. Why are there two, in dev-python/ and dev-lang/ ? > 3. One has a version of -1, which is *highly* unusual, what is that >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-11-03, o godz. 10:53:13 Alan McKinnon napisał(a): > One set of questions that were never answered and probably do deserve > some kind of notification: I can help you with these. However, I don't know on how much of it a random user cares. > 1. What exactly is python-exec anyway? It's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/11/2013 12:53, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-11-03, o godz. 10:53:13 > Alan McKinnon napisał(a): > >> One set of questions that were never answered and probably do deserve >> some kind of notification: > > I can help you with these. However, I don't know on how much of it > a random user

[IDEA] Enumerate solutions for blockers, to avoid tedious manual work. (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-03 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote: > Sadly, it's somewhat common for (newish) users to not know what to do > with that. Blocker output can be quite daunting in the beginning, > especially if it's in the middle of 20 other things port

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: kde-misc/kio-upnp-ms

2013-11-03 Thread Johannes Huber
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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: kde-misc/qtrans

2013-11-03 Thread Johannes Huber
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Duncan
yac posted on Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:11:00 +0100 as excerpted: > btw, is there a difference betwen world and @world or is just new > syntax? Too short answer: New syntax. Middling answer: @world is now preferred, (bare) world support being retained for backward compatibility, both with people's "t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/03/2013 04:02 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 03/11/2013 01:45, yac wrote: On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:19:21 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: On 11/02/2013 06:09 PM, yac wrote: I don't know how this releng stuff works. I bet there is lot of devs who don't. This is why you should announce riski

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Getting back to my original post: I want to make the python team aware of > the needs of releng and exercise care in the future when making a commit > where "alarm bells" go off. An email to releng@ or gentoo-dev@ asking "will > this mes

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-11-03 23h59 UTC

2013-11-03 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-11-03 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-news/raggle 2013-10-29 03:48:16 mrueg app-office/tpp 2013-10-29 03:49:10 mrueg dev-ruby/ncurses-rub

Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-03 Thread yac
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: [snip] > > > > Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there? > > It's always been "emerge -avuND world" [snip] Is this documented annywhere? I have a hard time finding it. I can see it mentioned eg. in man emerge in -c option

Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-03 Thread yac
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: [snip] > > > > Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there? > > It's always been "emerge -avuND world" [snip] Is this documented annywhere? I have a hard time finding it. I can see it mentioned eg. in man emerge in -c option

Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-03 Thread yac
Please do not reply to this thread. I've resent the mail without the thread context header. On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 01:59:19 +0100 yac wrote: > On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there? > > > > It's