[ sorry, a lot to quote ]
What upstream do you plan to report bugs when user possibly mixes
all of it in one mess? Each of those is known to be unstable. The mix
is just a disaster.
Is gentoo's kernel team able to resolve user's OOpsen?
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>
> This problem is not o
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Sergei Trofimovich wrote:
> [ sorry, a lot to quote ]
>
> What upstream do you plan to report bugs when user possibly mixes
> all of it in one mess? Each of those is known to be unstable. The mix
> is just a disaster.
>
> Is gentoo's kernel team able to resolve user
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On 07/01/2013 11:53 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> Now I'm confused because gentoo-sources is gentoo specific. It
> contains stuff that we need in gentoo but other distros do not
> need, like our end-to-end support for certain xattr namespaces. If
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On 07/02/2013 10:21 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Sergei Trofimovich
> wrote:
>> Forbid users install udev to ROOT=/ if running kernel does not
>> support devtmpfs (easy to check by /proc/filesystems)
>
> No. As expla
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Sorry for that GPG-traffic and me needing 3 mails to formulate my
thoughts.
I am not against providing a gentoo-sources binary kernel package with
a sound setup to suite gentoo-needs and `make allmodconfig`
to give the less enthusiastic `make nconfi
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:36:34 +0300
Sergei Trofimovich wrote:
> What upstream do you plan to report bugs when user possibly mixes
> all of it in one mess? Each of those is known to be unstable. The mix
> is just a disaster.
They used to do this to us and to kernel upstream before. Why? Because
we
On 09:21 Mon 24 Jun , Mike Pagano wrote:
> Sometimes it helps to realize that the people on the other end of the
> wire are just that: people.
>
> I've seen behaviors change among team members for the better.
^^ This.
Seeing people as close to "in person" as we can get without a conference
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:21:53 +0200
Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Sergei Trofimovich wrote:
> > [ sorry, a lot to quote ]
> >
> > What upstream do you plan to report bugs when user possibly mixes
> > all of it in one mess? Each of those is known to be unstable. The mix
>
Almost all of this portion of the thread is off-topic for gentoo-dev, so
I'll leave it alone, and will be more than willing to take it up
somewhere else it is on-topic for, like linux-kernel, if you want to.
But, there is one thing I do want to ask/comment on, as it is relevant
to users of Gentoo:
This reminds me of: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png
It sure sounds nicely, however I would not want to be the guy who maintains
the whole mess of (often) incompatible patchsets.
Given the fact that some patches lag 1-3 stable versions behind Linuses
tree (grsec used by hardened for exampl
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