Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: deprecate /usr/share/doc/$PF

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 27 December 2011 12:29:09 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > On Wednesday 21 of December 2011 04:40:09 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Tuesday 20 December 2011 20:44:03 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > > > I still think we should even make PN an unique identifier in order to > > > be able to purge categori

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 January 2012 01:49:59 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 23:09:46 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > cdrom_get_cds() { > > > > # first we figure out how many cds we're dealing with by > > # the # of files they gave us > > local cdcnt=0 > > local f= > > for f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: cdrom.eclass

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 14 January 2012 11:03:18 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Michael Sterrett wrote: > > Can you give an example of how you think it would be used in an > > ebuild? > > For example, like this: > >CDROM_DISABLE_PROPERTIES=1 >inherit [...] cdrom > >IUSE="cdin

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH git-2.eclass 1/2] Clean up non-bare checkout before updating.

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 23 December 2011 16:49:46 Michał Górny wrote: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 22:09:26 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > On Fri, 23 Dec 2011, Michał Górny wrote: > > > Fixes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395247 > > > > > > + git clean -d -f -x || die "${FUNCNAME}: failed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag "neon" for ARM NEON optimization(s)

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 23 December 2011 11:44:32 Duncan wrote: > Matt Turner posted on Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:09:30 -0500 as excerpted: > > to avoid confusion I'd suggest arch-neon or arm-neon (or armneon/ > >> archneon) if it's to be a global flag. > > > > NEON (the SIMD extensions) are turned on by the neon fla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/cdparanoia: ChangeLog cdparanoia-3.10.2-r3.ebuild

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 23 October 2011 09:50:04 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > On Sonntag 23 Oktober 2011 15:34:30 Samuli Suominen wrote: > > If you only wanted to remove these files, you are free to use > > INSTALL_MASK locally instead of downgrading the quality of tree. > > > > Do you have any idea how much tim

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/cdparanoia: ChangeLog cdparanoia-3.10.2-r3.ebuild

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 23 October 2011 13:34:20 Duncan wrote: > Interestingly enough, unless I've misunderstood, this issue would be > affected by the recent security-based -fPIC/-fPIE on amd64 by default > discussion as well, since if everything (including static libs) were > built with at least -fPIC as requi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag "neon" for ARM NEON optimization(s)

2012-01-18 Thread Samuli Suominen
i agree that for some users, they've never heard of the the ARM NEON extensions, but they have heard of the neon library. i'd counter that with a few points: (1) i don't think there are any packages in the tree that have optional neon (the library) support (2) people are good at reading `quse -D

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/cdparanoia: ChangeLog cdparanoia-3.10.2-r3.ebuild

2012-01-18 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 01/18/2012 01:40 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 23 October 2011 09:50:04 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: On Sonntag 23 Oktober 2011 15:34:30 Samuli Suominen wrote: If you only wanted to remove these files, you are free to use INSTALL_MASK locally instead of downgrading the quality of tree. D

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: cdrom.eclass

2012-01-18 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> CDROM_DISABLE_PROPERTIES=1 >> inherit [...] cdrom >> >> IUSE="cdinstall" >> PROPERTIES="cdinstall? ( interactive )" >> >> It would be required for 7 out of the 36 packages that use cdrom >> functions. > since USE=cdinstall has been our standar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/cdparanoia: ChangeLog cdparanoia-3.10.2-r3.ebuild

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 06:42:37 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 01/18/2012 01:40 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Sunday 23 October 2011 09:50:04 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > >> On Sonntag 23 Oktober 2011 15:34:30 Samuli Suominen wrote: > >>> If you only wanted to remove these files, you are free

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: cdrom.eclass

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 06:45:59 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > ebuild: > > CDROM_OPTIONAL="yes" > > inherit cdrom > > > > eclass: > > if [[ ${CDROM_OPTIONAL} == "yes" ]] ; then > > PROPERTIES="cdinstall? ( interactive )" > > else > > PROP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 11 January 2012 17:09:46 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Sat, 7 Jan 2012, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > - unpack_pdv() is used by one ebuild in the tree only. > > Mike told me that it should stay together with unpack_makeself(), > so I won't touch this one. this is being addressed in a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/cdparanoia: ChangeLog cdparanoia-3.10.2-r3.ebuild

2012-01-18 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 01/18/2012 01:56 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: if you want some touch nuggets to tackle, take a look at the openssl ebuild. its generation of static archives are less than ideal because the build system creates one set of objects (all built with PIC), then produces a lib.so and lib.a from that sin

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-18 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:20:03 -0600 Dale wrote: > Michał Górny wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:38:26 -0600 > > Dale wrote: > > > >> Michał Górny wrote: > >>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 > >>> Enrico Weigelt wrote: > >>> > * Micha?? Górny schrieb: > > > Does working hard

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-18 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:22:24 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > And then you can just refer to ${CDROM_CHECK[$i]} rather than using > > all those ugly ${!...}. > > yes, i wrote this before i had a grasp of bash arrays. however, for > Ulrich's work, he should just be relocating code without modifyi

[gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Agostino Sarubbo
This mail is come from my long time experience about testing. So, everytime, I must suggest the same things and I can say that at some point it gets boring. I appreciate the work of all, but I must say that some people pay little attention to stablereq bugs, so this mail wants to be a short rem

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > 4) Nobody knows how work all packages in tree, so there are > obvious packages like a browsers, IM, audio player,that is easy > decide if is ok or not, but there are also packages that an > Arch tester has never seen, so is a lack of time everyti

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 08:39:04 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:22:24 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > # now we see if the user gave use CD_ROOT ... > > > > # if they did, let's just believe them that it's correct > > > > if [[ -n ${CD_ROOT}${CD_ROOT_1}

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Alexis Ballier
Hi, On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:23 +0100 Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > 2) _Before_ filing a request, please run repoman full, to be sure > that there is nothing to fix, then take a look at the ebuild and make > sure your ebuild have a minimum of QA; all external binary called in > the ebuild(sed, mv, cp,

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:23:00 Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > So, everytime, I must suggest the same things and I can say that at some > point it gets boring. so put it into a Gentoo guide and refer people to that > 3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you declare > i

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:23 +0100 > Agostino Sarubbo wrote: >> 3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you >> declare it, please, as you said, exclude gcc/glibc and all package >> from @system > > imho this has nothing

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 10:05 Wed 18 Jan , Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:23:00 Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > > 3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you > > declare it, please, as you said, exclude gcc/glibc and all package > > from @system > > portage generates a

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 10:44:44 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:23 +0100 Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > >> 3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you > >> declare it, please, as you said, exclude gcc/g

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 1/18/12 4:48 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 10:05 Wed 18 Jan , Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:23:00 Agostino Sarubbo wrote: >>> 3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you >>> declare it, please, as you said, exclude gcc/glibc and all packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 12:32:08 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: > On 1/18/12 4:48 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 10:05 Wed 18 Jan , Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:23:00 Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > >>> 3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 1/18/12 7:10 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 12:32:08 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: >> Same here. How about adding some warning to portage (maybe just in the >> developer profile) when files in NEEDED are provided by packages not in >> RDEPEND? > > atm, we'll get a lot of fa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag "neon" for ARM NEON optimization(s)

2012-01-18 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2012-01-18 12:37:12 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > On Friday 23 December 2011 11:44:32 Duncan wrote: > > Matt Turner posted on Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:09:30 -0500 as excerpted: > > > to avoid confusion I'd suggest arch-neon or arm-neon (or armneon/ > > >> archneon) if it's to be a global flag. > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > it isn't just circular deps.  it's also about breaking alternatives and > useless bloat.  adding "coreutils" to their depend because they execute `mv`, > or "sed" because they execute `sed`, etc... is absolutely pointless.  same > goes for

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 01/18/2012 05:32 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 1/18/12 4:48 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> On 10:05 Wed 18 Jan , Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:23:00 Agostino Sarubbo wrote: 3) Check your rdepend, where is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-18 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:48:59 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 08:39:04 Michał Górny wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:22:24 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > # now we see if the user gave use CD_ROOT ... > > > > > # if they did, let's just believe them th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 14:11:14 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:48:59 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 08:39:04 Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:22:24 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > > # now we see if the user gave use CD_ROOT

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 13:42:12 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > it isn't just circular deps. it's also about breaking alternatives and > > useless bloat. adding "coreutils" to their depend because they execute > > `mv`, or "sed" because they

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 14:02:01 Markos Chandras wrote: > On 01/18/2012 05:32 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > > On 1/18/12 4:48 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > >> On 10:05 Wed 18 Jan , Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>> On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:23:00 Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > 3) Check y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-18 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:29:27 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 14:11:14 Michał Górny wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:48:59 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 08:39:04 Michał Górny wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:22:24 -0500 Mike Frysing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 15:14:05 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:29:27 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 14:11:14 Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:48:59 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 08:39:04 Michał Górn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-18 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:16:02 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 15:14:05 Michał Górny wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:29:27 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 14:11:14 Michał Górny wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:48:59 -0500 Mike Frysing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 15:28:45 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:16:02 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 15:14:05 Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:29:27 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 14:11:14 Michał Górn

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > it is a problem.  not all profiles use "coreutils" ... they provide > replacement > packages.  busybox is just one example.  the bsd/prefix guys go in even > weirder > directions. Yup - hence my point about coreutils not being a good one

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-18 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:39:24 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 15:28:45 Michał Górny wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:16:02 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 15:14:05 Michał Górny wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:29:27 -0500 Mike Frysing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 16:17:50 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:39:24 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > yes. this func is the primer so it starts at 1, and after this, > > > > people call cdrom_load_next_cd which then prints out: > > einfo "Found CD #2 root at ..." > > ei

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Agostino Sarubbo
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 11:55:30 Alexis Ballier wrote: > > 3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you > > declare it, please, as you said, exclude gcc/glibc and all package > > from @system > > imho this has nothing to do with stabilization There is a misunderstading

[gentoo-dev] Re: How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:45:04 -0500 as excerpted: > Again, you're using coreutils as an example, and that doesn't seem like > something that would be much of a value-add to place in RDEPEND. > However, if you had a package that required openssh, that would seem to > be a much be

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-libs/glibc: glibc-2.14.1-r2.ebuild glibc-2.12.2.ebuild glibc-9999.ebuild glibc-2.15.ebuild glibc-2.10.1-r1.ebuild glibc-2.14.1-r1.ebuild glib

2012-01-18 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Um, what happend to the policy to not f*** around with stable ebuilds? I see a violation of this rule at least on 2.13-r4, which leads to useless rebuilds on `emerge -avuND world` on every single gentoo install world-wide. Please don't do that.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag "neon" for ARM NEON optimization(s)

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 13:40:23 Arfrever wrote: > 2012-01-18 12:37:12 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > i agree that for some users, they've never heard of the the ARM NEON > > extensions, but they have heard of the neon library. i'd counter that > > with a few points: (1) i don't think there a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-libs/glibc: glibc-2.14.1-r2.ebuild glibc-2.12.2.ebuild glibc-9999.ebuild glibc-2.15.ebuild glibc-2.10.1-r1.ebuild glibc-2.14.1-r1.ebuild

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 21:42:14 Michael Weber wrote: > Um, what happend to the policy to not f*** around with stable ebuilds? take a chill pill phil > I see a violation of this rule at least on 2.13-r4, which leads to > useless rebuilds on `emerge -avuND world` on every single gentoo > inst

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 15:45:04 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > it is a problem. not all profiles use "coreutils" ... they provide > > replacement packages. busybox is just one example. the bsd/prefix guys > > go in even weirder directions.

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >  - you're confusing the literal @system with implicit system deps I don't quite follow here. By "implicit system deps", are you referring to the "common sense" set of essential packages that you have floating around in that brain of yours?

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-libs/glibc: glibc-2.14.1-r2.ebuild glibc-2.12.2.ebuild glibc-9999.ebuild glibc-2.15.ebuild glibc-2.10.1-r1.ebuild glibc-2.14.1-r1.ebuild glib

2012-01-18 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger posted on Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:00:52 -0500 as excerpted: > On Wednesday 18 January 2012 21:42:14 Michael Weber wrote: >> Um, what happend to the policy to not f*** around with stable ebuilds? > > take a chill pill phil > >> I see a violation of this rule at least on [glibc-]2.13-r4

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-libs/glibc: glibc-2.14.1-r2.ebuild glibc-2.12.2.ebuild glibc-9999.ebuild glibc-2.15.ebuild glibc-2.10.1-r1.ebuild glibc-2.14.1-r1.ebuild

2012-01-18 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: Considering glibc was just one of some 200-ish packages I rebuilt early today due to -N, most of the rest being kde-4.7.97 (aka 4.8-rc2) which will be in-overlay for just a few more days as 4.8-release is due next week, because gentoo/kde just removed the long-masked kdeenablefinal