On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 05:59:21PM -0800, Zac Medico wrote:
> Well, it's much easier to gather interest and get feedback if we deploy
> the change and ask questions later.
What if we tried solving this problem by providing more options instead
of trying to guess what the users want? :)
Imagine th
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 02:59, Zac Medico wrote:
> Well, it's much easier to gather interest and get feedback if we deploy
> the change and ask questions later.
I like the new output, but find it kind of annoying that there's very
little feedback on how far the progress is within a single job.
Pe
On 14 November 2011 03:25, Alex Alexander wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 05:59:21PM -0800, Zac Medico wrote:
>> Well, it's much easier to gather interest and get feedback if we deploy
>> the change and ask questions later.
>
> What if we tried solving this problem by providing more options inste
On 11/14/11 09:25, Alex Alexander wrote:
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 05:59:21PM -0800, Zac Medico wrote:
Well, it's much easier to gather interest and get feedback if we deploy
the change and ask questions later.
What if we tried solving this problem by providing more options instead
of trying to g
Zac Medico wrote:
On 11/13/2011 03:09 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
Zac Medico schrieb:
On 11/13/2011 07:49 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
Please give me a good reason, why i should by default do more things (adding
quiet-build=n to the
default emerge opts or searching for and opening the build.log) and
Excerpts from Dale's message of 2011-11-14 13:17:28 +0100:
> Here is some feedback then. I liked it the way it was. When a build
> fails, I do a one of install of that package and I like to see the
> output. Why, because sometimes it gives me a hint as to why it failed
> or something I can googl
Zac Medico wrote:
On 11/13/2011 08:24 AM, Duncan wrote:
The previous defaults made perfect sense to me already. Parallel emerge
jobs already puts portage in quiet mode, and that's what most people who
care (see my point above about whether this is the right distro choice or
not) should already
Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote:
Excerpts from Dale's message of 2011-11-14 13:17:28 +0100:
Here is some feedback then. I liked it the way it was. When a build
fails, I do a one of install of that package and I like to see the
output. Why, because sometimes it gives me a hint as to why it failed
or
Excerpts from Dale's message of 2011-11-14 13:43:36 +0100:
> Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote:
> > Excerpts from Dale's message of 2011-11-14 13:17:28 +0100:
> > > Here is some feedback then. I liked it the way it was. When a
> > > build fails, I do a one of install of that package and I like to
> > > se
Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote:
Excerpts from Dale's message of 2011-11-14 13:43:36 +0100:
Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote:
Excerpts from Dale's message of 2011-11-14 13:17:28 +0100:
Here is some feedback then. I liked it the way it was. When a
build fails, I do a one of install of that package and I lik
On 11/14/2011 05:11 AM, Dale wrote:
> Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote:
>> Excerpts from Dale's message of 2011-11-14 13:43:36 +0100:
>>> Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote:
Excerpts from Dale's message of 2011-11-14 13:17:28 +0100:
> Here is some feedback then. I liked it the way it was. When a
> bui
On 11/14/2011 12:25 AM, Alex Alexander wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 05:59:21PM -0800, Zac Medico wrote:
>> Well, it's much easier to gather interest and get feedback if we deploy
>> the change and ask questions later.
>
> What if we tried solving this problem by providing more options instead
On 11/14/2011 12:47 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 02:59, Zac Medico wrote:
>> Well, it's much easier to gather interest and get feedback if we deploy
>> the change and ask questions later.
>
> I like the new output, but find it kind of annoying that there's very
> little fe
On 11/13/2011 10:49 PM, Ryan Hill wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:42:39 -0500
> Mike Gilbert wrote:
>
>> www-client/google-chrome has RDEPEND=">=sys-devel/gcc-4.4.0[-nocxx]" to
>> ensure that we have a recent version of libstdc++. We basically need to
>> match Ubuntu LTS since that is what Google
On Monday 14 November 2011 04:39:50 Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Why do y'all want to make it harder for me to figure out
you've already told you how to put it into verbose mode (it's all of one line
in your make.conf). you do it once, and then you're done.
-mike
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On Sunday 13 November 2011 12:26:25 Mike Frysinger wrote:
> i noticed that we have net-tools listed in base/packages. considering this
> is a Linux-only tool, this doesn't make sense anymore. so i'll be
> relocating it to default/linux/packages.
relocated
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On 11/14/2011 04:36 AM, Dale wrote:
> Zac Medico wrote:
>> 1) I estimate that the flooding of the terminal with build output is
>> useless for more than 99% of users. Usually, there's too much
>> information scrolling by at too high of a rate for it to be
>> intelligible. Having this as the default
Zac Medico wrote:
On 11/14/2011 04:36 AM, Dale wrote:
Zac Medico wrote:
1) I estimate that the flooding of the terminal with build output is
useless for more than 99% of users. Usually, there's too much
information scrolling by at too high of a rate for it to be
intelligible. Having this as the
On Sunday 13 November 2011 13:42:43 Mike Frysinger wrote:
> now that we have USE=cxx, and base/make.defaults has USE=cxx, i'd like to
> migrate gcc away from USE=nocxx.
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On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
> As I type:
>
> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
>
> So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect things to
> work like they have always worked. I say that as a user.
As I've explained in my post to tha
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On 14/11/11 01:07 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
>> As I type:
>>
>> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
>>
>> So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect things to
>>
On 11/14/2011 10:14 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 14/11/11 01:07 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
>> On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
>>> As I type:
>>>
>>> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
>>>
>>> So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect thing
Zac Medico wrote:
On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
As I type:
emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect things to
work like they have always worked. I say that as a user.
As I've explained in my po
On 11/14/2011 10:34 AM, Dale wrote:
> Zac Medico wrote:
>> On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
>>> As I type:
>>>
>>> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
>>>
>>> So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect things to
>>> work like they have alway
On 11/13/2011 11:37 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Sunday 13 November 2011 16:42:39 Mike Gilbert wrote:
>> If I understand you correctly, you are just going to add a "cxx" use
>> flag to gcc for some transitional period? If so, I can simply switch it
>> at some point after you add the new flag?
>
On 14 November 2011 10:34, Dale wrote:
> Zac Medico wrote:
>>
>> On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>
>>> As I type:
>>>
>>> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
>>>
>>> So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect things to
>>> work like they
Hilco Wijbenga wrote:
On 14 November 2011 10:34, Dale wrote:
Zac Medico wrote:
On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
As I type:
emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect things to
work like they have a
On Monday 14 November 2011 14:00:01 Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On 11/13/2011 11:37 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Sunday 13 November 2011 16:42:39 Mike Gilbert wrote:
> >> If I understand you correctly, you are just going to add a "cxx" use
> >> flag to gcc for some transitional period? If so, I can s
On 11/14/2011 3:03 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Monday 14 November 2011 14:00:01 Mike Gilbert wrote:
>> On 11/13/2011 11:37 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> On Sunday 13 November 2011 16:42:39 Mike Gilbert wrote:
If I understand you correctly, you are just going to add a "cxx" use
flag to
Zac Medico posted on Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:55:57 -0800 as excerpted:
> Why do we go on living when we know that we will eventually die and that
> there will be no trace left of our existence? Life is a journey, and we
> are required to surrender all of our souvenirs in the end.
Whole religions are
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Dale wrote:
> Zac Medico wrote:
>>
>> On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>
>>> As I type:
>>>
>>> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
>>>
>>> So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect things to
>>> work li
Zac Medico schrieb:
> On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
>> As I type:
>>
>> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
>>
>> So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect things to
>> work like they have always worked. I say that as a user.
>
> As I'
Zac Medico posted on Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:22:19 -0800 as excerpted:
> On 11/14/2011 12:47 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 02:59, Zac Medico wrote:
>>> Well, it's much easier to gather interest and get feedback if we
>>> deploy the change and ask questions later.
>>
>> I like
On 11/14/2011 02:52 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
> Zac Medico schrieb:
>> On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
>>> As I type:
>>>
>>> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
>>>
>>> So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect things to
>>>
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