Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review fortran-2.eclass next round

2011-06-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, June 17, 2011 02:40:27 justin wrote: > >> I wasn't aware of that. We are lacking any documentation about the > >> proper documentation for manpages in all eclass writing guides. > > > > the syntax is fully documented in the utility that generates it. see the > > awk in the eclass-manpa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 17/06/2011 03:30 πμ, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday, June 13, 2011 19:09:06 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >> On 11-06-2011 20:48, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> On Saturday, June 11, 2011 16:24:00 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 11 Jun 2011

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review fortran-2.eclass next round

2011-06-17 Thread Kacper Kowalik
W dniu 17.06.2011 05:03, Mike Frysinger pisze: >> DEPEND="virtual/fortran" >> > RDEPEND="${DEPEND}" > i'm not sure that RDEPEND is correct. do all fortran compilers additionally > require the fortran compiler to be available at runtime ? They require fortran runtime library if they don't link it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review fortran-2.eclass next round

2011-06-17 Thread justin
On 17/06/11 11:01, Kacper Kowalik wrote: > W dniu 17.06.2011 05:03, Mike Frysinger pisze: >>> DEPEND="virtual/fortran" RDEPEND="${DEPEND}" >> i'm not sure that RDEPEND is correct. do all fortran compilers additionally >> require the fortran compiler to be available at runtime ? > They requir

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2011-06-17 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 06/17/2011 04:10 PM, Stuart Longland (redhatter) wrote: > redhatter11/06/17 13:10:02 > > Modified: package.mask > Log: > Masking of media-radio/svxlink-090426 and media-radio/gmfsk. The former > will > need a major overhaul, and I intend to replace the ebuild with a ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > Not removing old packages does *NOT* violate the policy. And this is why nobody likes lawyers. :) Leaving around old packages because of a desire to avoid a policy doesn't really strike me as an example of exemplary QA either. There are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 17/06/2011 05:25 ??, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> Not removing old packages does *NOT* violate the policy. > > And this is why nobody likes lawyers. :) > Rich, That's a bit controversial. Do

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Fri, 17 Jun 2011 07:25:42 -0700 as excerpted: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Markos Chandras > wrote: >> Not removing old packages does *NOT* violate the policy. > > And this is why nobody likes lawyers. :) > > Leaving around old packages because of a desire to avoid

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
El 17/06/11 16:25, Rich Freeman escribió: > If we > think that tweaking the changelog policy causes pain, just wait to see > how the git migration goes. Just a few words regarding this, in my company we moved to git (from darcs) recently. I have ended up taking some non working days because the pre

[gentoo-dev] write to filesystem in pkg_pretend

2011-06-17 Thread Torsten Veller
* justin : > Now using the new pkg_pretend for EAPI=4 While T is defined in all phases, PMS also says that "pkg_pretend must not write to the filesystem". Is it allowed to write to T or not? Can the specs be clearer if it's allowed? -- Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] write to filesystem in pkg_pretend

2011-06-17 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:25:21 +0200 Torsten Veller wrote: > * justin : > > Now using the new pkg_pretend for EAPI=4 > > While T is defined in all phases, PMS also says that "pkg_pretend must > not write to the filesystem". > > Is it allowed to write to T or not? Can the specs be clearer if it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] write to filesystem in pkg_pretend

2011-06-17 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2011, Torsten Veller wrote: > While T is defined in all phases, PMS also says that "pkg_pretend > must not write to the filesystem". > Is it allowed to write to T or not? Can the specs be clearer if it's > allowed? "Must not write to the filesystem" seems to be very clear to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, June 17, 2011 11:31:43 Duncan wrote: > What occurred to me in the context of this whole controversy, was that > not only can devs simply leave old versions for someone else to remove, > but they can, and routinely do, remove old versions as part of a commit > changing something in (some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, June 17, 2011 12:08:43 Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera wrote: > El 17/06/11 16:25, Rich Freeman escribió: > > If we > > think that tweaking the changelog policy causes pain, just wait to see > > how the git migration goes. > > Just a few words regarding this, in my company we moved to gi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review fortran-2.eclass next round

2011-06-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, June 17, 2011 05:01:10 Kacper Kowalik wrote: > W dniu 17.06.2011 05:03, Mike Frysinger pisze: > >> DEPEND="virtual/fortran" > >> > >> > RDEPEND="${DEPEND}" > > > > i'm not sure that RDEPEND is correct. do all fortran compilers > > additionally require the fortran compiler to be availa

Re: [gentoo-dev] write to filesystem in pkg_pretend

2011-06-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, June 17, 2011 12:25:21 Torsten Veller wrote: > * justin : > > Now using the new pkg_pretend for EAPI=4 > > While T is defined in all phases, PMS also says that "pkg_pretend must > not write to the filesystem". > > Is it allowed to write to T or not? Can the specs be clearer if it's > a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger posted on Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:44:52 -0400 as excerpted: > On Friday, June 17, 2011 11:31:43 Duncan wrote: >> It's worth pointing out that if Mike and others' workflow already >> involves a lot of this, they'd be modifying it very little if they >> simply avoided separate removals.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review fortran-2.eclass next round

2011-06-17 Thread Kacper Kowalik
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 W dniu 17.06.2011 18:41, Mike Frysinger pisze: > On Friday, June 17, 2011 05:01:10 Kacper Kowalik wrote: >> W dniu 17.06.2011 05:03, Mike Frysinger pisze: DEPEND="virtual/fortran" > RDEPEND="${DEPEND}" >>> >>> i'm not sure that RDEPEND is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review fortran-2.eclass next round

2011-06-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, June 17, 2011 14:39:22 Kacper Kowalik wrote: > W dniu 17.06.2011 18:41, Mike Frysinger pisze: > > On Friday, June 17, 2011 05:01:10 Kacper Kowalik wrote: > >> W dniu 17.06.2011 05:03, Mike Frysinger pisze: > DEPEND="virtual/fortran" > > > RDEPEND="${DEPEND}" > >>> > >>> i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 06/17/2011 09:18 PM, Duncan wrote: > Mike Frysinger posted on Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:44:52 -0400 as excerpted: > >> On Friday, June 17, 2011 11:31:43 Duncan wrote: >>> It's worth pointing out that if Mike and others' workflow already >>> involves a lot of this, they'd be modifying it very little i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages that explicitly DEPEND on sys-apps/sed

2011-06-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
more thoughts as to why this is a bad idea ... how do you deal with runtime library requirements which only the compiler knows about ? sys-devel/gcc provides many runtime libraries such as libgcc_s.so. but whether the package actually needs that at runtime may depend purely on the arch/abi, or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, June 17, 2011 14:34:35 Samuli Suominen wrote: > I'm sorry, but honestly, did you have a point in there somewhere? i gathered that he had a specific case where he found a removal entry in the ChangeLog kept people from chasing their own tail for a while -mike signature.asc Description

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Duncan
Samuli Suominen posted on Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:34:35 +0300 as excerpted: > On 06/17/2011 09:18 PM, Duncan wrote: >> >> Meanwhile, case-in-point of why changelogging removals matters. My >> last post was to a kde list, helping someone trying to build kdelibs on >> RHEL. He was missing the libdbusm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages that explicitly DEPEND on sys-apps/sed

2011-06-17 Thread Bruno
On Tue, 14 June 2011 Brian Harring wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:08:54AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Brian Harring wrote: > > > The implicit system set dependency thing really, really needs to die; > > > at the time of the rule, portage couldn't handle re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
El 17/06/11 18:46, Mike Frysinger escribió: > On Friday, June 17, 2011 12:08:43 Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera wrote: >> El 17/06/11 16:25, Rich Freeman escribió: >>> If we >>> think that tweaking the changelog policy causes pain, just wait to see >>> how the git migration goes. >> Just a few words

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, June 17, 2011 16:37:02 Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera wrote: > El 17/06/11 18:46, Mike Frysinger escribió: > > On Friday, June 17, 2011 12:08:43 Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera wrote: > >> El 17/06/11 16:25, Rich Freeman escribió: > >>> If we > >>> think that tweaking the changelog policy

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-ruby/fromcvs: metadata.xml ChangeLog fromcvs-0_pre132.ebuild

2011-06-17 Thread Hans de Graaff
Stanislav asked me to review. I'm also including the list since other people may also be interested how to handle ruby ebuilds. On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 22:04 +, Stanislav Ochotnicky (sochotnicky) wrote: > sochotnicky11/06/15 22:04:56 > > Added:metadata.xml ChangeLog fromcv

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-ruby/rcsparse: rcsparse-0_pre45.ebuild metadata.xml ChangeLog

2011-06-17 Thread Hans de Graaff
Another ruby ebuild review. Some of the issues that were present in fromcvs are also in this ebuild, I won't repeat them. On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 22:01 +, Stanislav Ochotnicky (sochotnicky) wrote: > sochotnicky11/06/15 22:01:26 > > Added:rcsparse-0_pre45.ebuild metadata.xm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages that explicitly DEPEND on sys-apps/sed

2011-06-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:11:36 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > we've already discussed POSIX strictness in the tree multiple times, > and it's been shot down multiple times for good reason. GNU > extensions make life a hell of a lot easier, the majority of people > are developing/testing on such sys