Alec Warner wrote:
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
On 18 March 2010 20:24, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 18-03-2010 20:20:02 +0100, Thomas Sachau wrote:
There are 2 ways to fix this issue:
-fix the dependency string for those packages (including the lines i
On 03/19/2010 12:15 AM, Dale wrote:
> I think this is because people that use Gentoo do so because it doesn't
> install things they don't need. Why install a package that is used by
> no other package? It's pointless.
>
> I would also add, if it gets installed and is used by no other package,
>
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 06:29:56PM +0200, Markos Chandras wrote:
> Dear fellow developers,
>
> A new project is about to start so I am requesting your feedback
>
> The primary goal of the Proxy Maintainers[1] project is to create and
> maintain
> relationships between developers and users in or
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:17:17 +0100
Ben de Groot wrote:
> Because it is extremely useless to the great majority of users.
Most packages in the tree are useless to the great majority of users.
--
Ciaran McCreesh
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Zac Medico wrote:
On 03/19/2010 12:15 AM, Dale wrote:
I think this is because people that use Gentoo do so because it doesn't
install things they don't need. Why install a package that is used by
no other package? It's pointless.
I would also add, if it gets installed and is used by no ot
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:17:17 +0100
Ben de Groot wrote:
Because it is extremely useless to the great majority of users.
Most packages in the tree are useless to the great majority of users.
Which is why most users don't install everything. I have about 1
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:54:28 -0500
Dale wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:17:17 +0100
> > Ben de Groot wrote:
> >
> >> Because it is extremely useless to the great majority of users.
> >>
> > Most packages in the tree are useless to the great majority of
> > use
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:54:28 -0500
Dale wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:17:17 +0100
Ben de Groot wrote:
Because it is extremely useless to the great majority of users.
Most packages in the tree are useless to the gre
> Zac Medico wrote:
>
> I think what most people want is for portage not to pull in a package
> that nothing uses. I'm not a dev nor a programmer but I have yet to see
> any good reason for installing something that is not being used. It's
> not being tested to see if it is stable. It would hav
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:23:31 -0500
Dale wrote:
> > It's being installed because it's a dependency of something you use.
> >
> > Replace Python with any other library and we wouldn't be having this
> > discussion.
>
> OK. Right now, as you type this, what package depends on python-3
> and won't w
2010-03-19 10:23:31 Dale napisał(a):
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:54:28 -0500
> > Dale wrote:
> >
> >> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:17:17 +0100
> >>> Ben de Groot wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> Because it is extremely useless to the
On 19.3.2010 11.35, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
>
> I can add "python2" USE flag (enabled by default) to some versions of
> dev-lang/python. With USE="-python2", Python 2 will not be required and
> Python 3 will be set as main active version of Python.
>
You should move to the sa
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 04:23:31AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> OK. Right now, as you type this, what package depends on python-3 and
> won't work with python-2? Anything at all? If it is nothing, then why
> install it?
To some degree it's the users choice which python version they choose
to settle
2010-03-19 10:39:07 Petteri Räty napisał(a):
> On 19.3.2010 11.35, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
>
> >
> > I can add "python2" USE flag (enabled by default) to some versions of
> > dev-lang/python. With USE="-python2", Python 2 will not be required and
> > Python 3 will be set as mai
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:55:03AM +0100, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
wrote:
> 2010-03-19 10:39:07 Petteri Räty napisał(a):
> > On 19.3.2010 11.35, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I can add "python2" USE flag (enabled by default) to some versions of
> > > dev-l
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:56:08 -0700
Brian Harring wrote:
> > We are waiting on ABI dependencies (and extended support for
> > multiple ABIs in package manager), which will provide some needed
> > functionality.
>
> You can do it now w/out waiting on ABI dependencies- I'm not saying
> the dependen
On 03/19/2010 01:52 AM, Dale wrote:
> I think what most people want is for portage not to pull in a package
> that nothing uses. I'm not a dev nor a programmer but I have yet to see
> any good reason for installing something that is not being used. It's
> not being tested to see if it is stable.
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:23:31 -0500
Dale wrote:
It's being installed because it's a dependency of something you use.
Replace Python with any other library and we wouldn't be having this
discussion.
OK. Right now, as you type this, what package depends on pyt
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:01:05AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:56:08 -0700
> Brian Harring wrote:
> > > We are waiting on ABI dependencies (and extended support for
> > > multiple ABIs in package manager), which will provide some needed
> > > functionality.
> >
> > You
2010-03-19 11:13:48 Dale napisał(a):
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:23:31 -0500
> > Dale wrote:
> >
> >>> It's being installed because it's a dependency of something you use.
> >>>
> >>> Replace Python with any other library and we wouldn't be having this
> >>> discussion.
В Срд, 10/03/2010 в 05:08 +0100, Sebastian Pipping пишет:
> How about a monthly bumpday?
Good idea, but it should follow our policy to inform maintainers _in
advance_: e.g. on first bumpday to work on bumps and notify maintainer
about this work by attaching final ebuild to the version bump bug wit
On 03/19/2010 02:06 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Thursday 18 March 2010 09:17:43 Thomas Kahle wrote:
>>> use.local.desc is automatically generated from metadata.xml files, so
>>> it's the same thing
>>
>> And this will soon be properly documented:
>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309963
Any objections to turning on the udev use flag by default in the base
profile?
Regards,
Petteri
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On 03/18/2010 04:34 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
Recruitment being the bottleneck that it is (with candidates
waiting many months), it is good to have another option
for people who want to contribute.
If we do have a list of people waiting to get in, could we maybe publish
this list somewhere, or i
On 19-03-2010 15:59:07 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
> Any objections to turning on the udev use flag by default in the base
> profile?
Yeah, can we just do it in the Linux profiles only somewhere?
--
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level
On 03/19/2010 04:04 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 19-03-2010 15:59:07 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
>> Any objections to turning on the udev use flag by default in the base
>> profile?
>
> Yeah, can we just do it in the Linux profiles only somewhere?
>
>
If udev doesn't work on the system, the fl
On 03/19/2010 04:04 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 19-03-2010 15:59:07 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
>> Any objections to turning on the udev use flag by default in the base
>> profile?
>
> Yeah, can we just do it in the Linux profiles only somewhere?
>
>
or rather mask the 'udev' use flag on prof
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
2010-03-19 11:13:48 Dale napisał(a):
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:23:31 -0500
Dale wrote:
It's being installed because it's a dependency of something you use.
Replace Python with any other library and we wouldn't
Alistair Bush wrote:
Zac Medico wrote:
I think what most people want is for portage not to pull in a package
that nothing uses. I'm not a dev nor a programmer but I have yet to see
any good reason for installing something that is not being used. It's
not being tested to see if it is stable. I
On 03/19/2010 10:57 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:54:28 -0500
Dale wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:17:17 +0100
Ben de Groot wrote:
Because it is extremely useless to the great majority of users.
Most packages in the tree are useless to the great m
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:02:44 -0500
Dale wrote:
> Because in my opinion, portage is the first thing in line to keep a
> system sane. Installing packages that are not needed means that
> portage fails on that. So in your example, portage fails to do its
> due diligence and it falls to the users
On Friday 19 March 2010 10:07:59 Petteri Räty wrote:
> On 03/19/2010 04:04 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > On 19-03-2010 15:59:07 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
> >> Any objections to turning on the udev use flag by default in the base
> >> profile?
> >
> > Yeah, can we just do it in the Linux profiles
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 03/19/2010 10:57 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:54:28 -0500
>> Dale wrote:
>>>
>>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:17:17 +0100
Ben de Groot wrote:
> Because it is extrem
On 03/19/2010 07:25 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Friday 19 March 2010 10:07:59 Petteri Räty wrote:
>> On 03/19/2010 04:04 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
>>> On 19-03-2010 15:59:07 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
Any objections to turning on the udev use flag by default in the base
profile?
>>>
>>
On Friday 19 March 2010 17:06:19 Petteri Räty wrote:
> On 03/19/2010 07:25 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Friday 19 March 2010 10:07:59 Petteri Räty wrote:
> >> On 03/19/2010 04:04 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> >>> On 19-03-2010 15:59:07 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
> Any objections to turning o
Dale posted on Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:13:48 -0500 as excerpted:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:23:31 -0500
>> Dale wrote:
>>
It's being installed because it's a dependency of something you use.
Replace Python with any other library and we wouldn't be having thi
On 03/19/2010 06:31 AM, Thomas Kahle wrote:
> On 03/19/2010 02:06 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>> On Thursday 18 March 2010 09:17:43 Thomas Kahle wrote:
use.local.desc is automatically generated from metadata.xml files, so
it's the same thing
>>>
>>> And this will soon be properly documented
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