Re: [gentoo-dev] SCHEDULED DOWNTIME: {cvs,svn}.gentoo.org - 2006-10-05 - 1900UTC - 2300UTC

2006-10-03 Thread Alexandre Buisse
On Tue, Oct 3, 2006 at 10:38:32 +0200, Nick Devito wrote: > On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 18:29 -0400, Michael Cummings wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 14:13 -0700, Chris White wrote: > > > On Monday 02 October 2006 13:30, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > > > We'll keep status in the topic at #gentoo-dev whi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 02:56 +0200, Lionel Bouton wrote: > Here's an updated draft. I included most of your remarks and added some > notes on append-flags/filter-flags. I'll probably submit it to Ulrich > around the end of the week. I surely hope you don't submit it to Ulrich if you want it to actu

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 27: Revisited (aka dynusers/creandus)

2006-10-03 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 22:58 -0400, Mike Kelly wrote: > I have a list of all packages in the tree that currently use either of > those functions[2]. If you maintain one of these packages, I'd > especially appreciate your feedback. You missed games-* (yes, all of them) via the games.eclass, but I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:56:42 +0200 Lionel Bouton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Being able to tune the CFLAGS is part of one of the core principles of | Gentoo: let the user be in control. What? No it isn't. | nss_ldap stopped working with -ffast-math (reported to | break many packages changing wit

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 03 October 2006 08:26, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Your penis length is not proportional to the size of your CFLAGS. i could update vpenis.sh so that this statement is incorrect ... -mike pgp8aNMxlm8sc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for October

2006-10-03 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 01 October 2006 02:18, Mike Frysinger wrote: > This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the > 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) ! due to some council members needing to do lame stuff like study for school, this h

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lionel Bouton wrote: > Here's an updated draft. I included most of your remarks and added some > notes on append-flags/filter-flags. I'll probably submit it to Ulrich > around the end of the week. > > --- Draft BEGIN --- > > CFLAGS > > > > Being a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Lionel Bouton
Josh Saddler wrote the following on 03.10.2006 18:11 : > (...) > > Lionel > Uh, Gentoo-wiki does not get linked. Are there many trying to link to the Gentoo Wiki in official documentation? It seems guns are warm and devs quick to jump to conclusions (re-read the title and the previous discussion o

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Daniel Ostrow
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 19:16 +0200, Lionel Bouton wrote: > Josh Saddler wrote the following on 03.10.2006 18:11 : > > (...) > > > Lionel > > Uh, Gentoo-wiki does not get linked. > > Are there many trying to link to the Gentoo Wiki in official > documentation? It seems guns are warm and devs quick t

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 27: Revisited (aka dynusers/creandus)

2006-10-03 Thread Mike Kelly
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 08:09:08 -0400 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a list of all packages in the tree that currently use either > > of those functions[2]. If you maintain one of these packages, I'd > > especially appreciate your feedback. > > You missed games-* (yes, all of

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Charlie
On 03/10/06, Daniel Ostrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gentoo-wiki does not now nor will it ever get linked to from official Gentoo media, documentation, or anything else within the www.gentoo.org namespace... http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-emulation/xen/xen-3.0.2.ebuild?rev

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Lionel Bouton
Daniel Ostrow wrote the following on 03.10.2006 19:22 : > > Ok...lets try this... > > Gentoo-wiki does not now nor will it ever get linked to from official > Gentoo media, documentation, or anything else within the www.gentoo.org > namespace... > > It seemed to me that although it is hosted in

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Charlie wrote: > On 03/10/06, Daniel Ostrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Gentoo-wiki does not now nor will it ever get linked to from official >> Gentoo media, documentation, or anything else within the www.gentoo.org >> namespace... > > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-emulati

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 27: Revisited (aka dynusers/creandus)

2006-10-03 Thread Mike Kelly
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 10:20:53 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > beside the syntax, as pointed by Donnie, it looks ok. > I guess could be possible extract automagically from the current tree > the data and create the datafile from it, isn't it? Yeah, it should be. I'm writing up a few

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Simon Stelling
Daniel Ostrow wrote: It is inherently unreliable and outside of Gentoo's control. Sorry, I really tried hard, but I just couldn't anymore... Must... say... __ _ _ _ _ _ / \ | | | | | | | | _ \ | __ ) / \ / ___|| | / _ \ | |

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 19:49 +0200, Lionel Bouton wrote: > It seemed to me that although it is hosted in the www.gentoo.org space > the GWN isn't official Gentoo stuff. The GWN is staffed entirely by developers. We have non-developer writers, but the staffers are all developers. To be honest, rat

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Lionel Bouton
Chris Gianelloni wrote the following on 03.10.2006 22:46 : > On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 19:49 +0200, Lionel Bouton wrote: > >> It seemed to me that although it is hosted in the www.gentoo.org space >> the GWN isn't official Gentoo stuff. >> > > The GWN is staffed entirely by developers. We have

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Lionel Bouton
Ciaran McCreesh wrote the following on 03.10.2006 14:26 : > On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:56:42 +0200 Lionel Bouton > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Being able to tune the CFLAGS is part of one of the core principles of > | Gentoo: let the user be in control. > > What? No it isn't. > Maybe it depends

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN, 3rd version

2006-10-03 Thread Lionel Bouton
Here's the third version of the draft, wiki-free and with less sugar too. More warnings. Thanks again for the input. --- Draft BEGIN --- CFLAGS Being able to tune the CFLAGS is part of one of the core principles of Gentoo: let the user be in control. Being in control brings both benefits and

[gentoo-dev] Linking to Gentoo-wiki from www.gentoo.org

2006-10-03 Thread Andrew Ross
Daniel Ostrow wrote: > Gentoo-wiki does not now nor will it ever get linked to from official > Gentoo media, documentation, or anything else within the www.gentoo.org > namespace... Really? http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20060424-newsletter.xml http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/devguide

[gentoo-dev] Linking to Gentoo-wiki from www.gentoo.org

2006-10-03 Thread Andrew Ross
Daniel Ostrow wrote: > Gentoo-wiki does not now nor will it ever get linked to from official > Gentoo media, documentation, or anything else within the www.gentoo.org > namespace... Really? http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20060424-newsletter.xml http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/devguide

[gentoo-dev] new eclass: java-gnome.eclass

2006-10-03 Thread Joshua Nichols
To facilitate the maintenance of the java-gnome packages (ie libgtk-java, libgnome-java, and company), I've created a new eclass. There are currently seven packages which would be able to use this, and the number is expected to increase as the java-gnome project adds more bindings. The initia

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linking to Gentoo-wiki from www.gentoo.org

2006-10-03 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Ross wrote: > Daniel Ostrow wrote: > >> Gentoo-wiki does not now nor will it ever get linked to from official >> Gentoo media, documentation, or anything else within the www.gentoo.org >> namespace... > > Really? > > http://www.gentoo.org/new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linking to Gentoo-wiki from www.gentoo.org

2006-10-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Josh Saddler wrote: > And /proj/en/ is up to the individual projects; /proj/ docs have nothing to do > with /doc/, which is where the primary official Gentoo documents reside. >> Daniel Ostrow wrote: >>> or anything else within the www.gentoo.org namespace... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 27: Revisited (aka dynusers/creandus)

2006-10-03 Thread Mike Kelly
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 00:44:57 -0400 Mike Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:28:21 -0700 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd prefer that the format be key=value for easier use by bash, as > > pretty much everything else in profiles is bash. > > Only issue I

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN, 3rd version

2006-10-03 Thread Duncan
Lionel Bouton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 04 Oct 2006 01:08:43 +0200: > Here's the third version of the draft, wiki-free and with less sugar > too. More warnings. Thanks for your patience in drafting this. I believe it's well worth the trouble and will

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 27: Revisited (aka dynusers/creandus)

2006-10-03 Thread Duncan
Mike Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:46:03 -0400: >> Does it need to be tons and tons of small files, or can >> we get away with a set of larger files with some sort of header? > > Hmm, parsing that would be a more difficult task for my

[gentoo-dev] Changes in Developer Relations and log of devrel meeting

2006-10-03 Thread Bryan Østergaard
Hi all. Jon Portnoy (avenj) recently resigned from Developer Relations. In that regard we had a meeting yesterday discussing the various issues from that. The (very) short summary is: 1. We've decided that I'm going to remain as the single devrel lead and that I will appoint assistants if and whe