Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 28 January 2006 12:30, Marcelo Góes wrote: > On 1/28/06, Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The question here now actually is: "is csh worth the hassle, or not?" > > My opinion is that it is not. > > csh_is_not_worth_it++; > It is causing trouble and not adding functionality. Unless

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Alin Nastac
Marcelo Góes wrote: > >If INSTALL_MASK is the correct way to prevent logrotate stuff from >being installed, then those 8 ebuilds I mentioned earlier should drop >the USE flag and install it by default. That's probably easier to fix, >too. > > This cannot be done for squid, because this useflag s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Find apps not ported to modular X

2006-01-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
The last drop: 498 to 465, a change of 33 -- adequate, but should be better since this was for close to three days. Progress graph: http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/broken_modular/broken_modular_progress.png Latest list: http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/broken_modular/broken_modular_maintainers.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:58:52 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You want people to recompile the whole package to get another > text file installed? When would one recompile a package just for that? Only case i can think of is when someone who already has setup his apache / ftp /

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:07:15 +0100 Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i would not appreciate to see it suddenly handling a new service > because a xinet.d file has been silently added by a new version > of an ebuild. Ok, i see all files i have installed in that dir have disa

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Jokey (Markus Ullmann)

2006-01-29 Thread Markus Ullmann
Thanks guys ;) Seems we have some Mar[ck]us'es and also Joker and Jokey.. Sure will be fun ;) Tobias Scherbaum wrote: >... and once again a candidate for the one and only German conspiracy >:) What about german conspiracy meet up at fosdem? ;) Greets, Markus -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing l

Re: [gentoo-dev] coreutils: deprecated behavior not so deprecated

2006-01-29 Thread Grobian
On 27-01-2006 08:44:14 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 23 January 2006 23:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > for those who dont know what i'm talking about, consider: > > tail -1 > > head -1 > > > > it would seem i lied about this (at least the first two still work) FYI: sort +0 doesn't work

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Francesco Riosa
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:58:52 -0800 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You want people to recompile the whole package to get another >> text file installed? > > When would one recompile a package just for that? Only case i can > think of is when

Re: "Environement categories" (was Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2)

2006-01-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 02:26, Brian Harring wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 08:06:12PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > i would be ok with implementing the back end (i.e. FEATURES=debug-build) > > but putting off the front end (i.e. emerge --debug-build) > > Front-end doesn't matter, it's th

[gentoo-dev] Status of openhbci in Gentoo

2006-01-29 Thread Hanno Böck
Hi, Due to some notes that I have binary files in the tree on some packages I used to maintain ages ago, I came to the fact that we still have openhbci in the tree. openhbci is a library for the german homebanking computer interface standard. It has been replaced by the much advanced aqbanking

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 07:46:30AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > We already had this discussion. It's not that it's another file, it's > that it's another file in /etc, which is backed up and requires > administrator attention on every upgrade. Packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: New category - sci-visualization

2006-01-29 Thread Marcus D. Hanwell
On Saturday 14 January 2006 15:01, Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: > I propose creating a new category, sci-visualization, to house scientific > visualization applications. There are at least 17 applications I have > identified which are already in the tree that could be moved. Many of them > are in media

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > Or again another one (a bit ugly imho tho): merge the files in an > "/etc/logrotate.d.dist" directory, and add an eselect module to > handle symlinks from "/etc/logrotate.d". What's ugly about this? I like it. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:58:52 -0800 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You want people to recompile the whole package to get another >> text file installed? > > When would one recompile a package just for that? Only case i can > think of is when

Re: [gentoo-dev] NFP lack of progress

2006-01-29 Thread Grant Goodyear
Brian Harring wrote: [Fri Jan 20 2006, 10:42:39AM CST] > Email's pretty simple- from where I'm sitting, there doesn't seem to > be any actual progress on trustees issues. That's a pretty good synopsis. > 1) Copyright assignment. Check the nfp archives, last comment is sep > 26th, seems to be t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-29 Thread Sven Köhler
>> You say, that it's the intended behaviour, that bootstrap.sh keeps the >> crippled gcc 3.3 intact and as the default compiler. > > ok, i looked into this some more and ran some tests ... > > long and short of it is that the behavior i discussed before applies only in > a > stage3 and beyond

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 29 January 2006 20:37, Sven Köhler wrote: > >> You say, that it's the intended behaviour, that bootstrap.sh keeps the > >> crippled gcc 3.3 intact and as the default compiler. > > > > ive chatted with wolf and the real fix here is to change the 'emerge > > clean' at the end of bootstrap.s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-29 Thread Sven Köhler
>> I also noticed the "--oneshot" fix. > > i noted this already elsewhere in the thread > > dont you read all of the e-mails !? ??? I just wanted to say "Thank you" for both fixes. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 29 January 2006 20:50, Sven Köhler wrote: > >> I also noticed the "--oneshot" fix. > > > > i noted this already elsewhere in the thread > > > > dont you read all of the e-mails !? > > ??? > > I just wanted to say "Thank you" for both fixes. sorry i forgot the -mike -- gentoo-dev@gento

[gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-29 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
After reading Donnie's interesting post about how to set VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES in xorg 7, I wondered for a while if LINGUAS should have the same treatment. Defining LINGUAS variable would be useful to allow people to know whether they are going to have special support for their language

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:51:25 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > > Or again another one (a bit ugly imho tho): merge the files in > > an "/etc/logrotate.d.dist" directory, and add an eselect module > > to handle symlinks from "/etc/logrotate.d".

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:51:29 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And any other "new" file in /etc you also want a USE flag > introduced for? Sounds real scalable. Or is this just an > exception from the rule? Sure it's an exception. I make the difference beetween: - usual /etc/ fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > It would be interesting to know how that happened for in the past > for /etc/bash_completion.d, which made a similar move iirc Yes, it would. > (although real files went to /usr/share/something, whereas here i > would rather see them in etc because they are mo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:15:57 +0100 Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | It would be interesting to know how that happened for in the past | for /etc/bash_completion.d, which made a similar move iirc Have you any idea how slow bash is if you use all the completion files for ever

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:17:36 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Also, as repoman complain about linguas_blabla not being a valid | useflags, all the linguas_* useflags should be listed in use.desc No, part of the point of USE_EXPAND is that they shouldn't. This is a rep