Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 27 November 2005 17:49, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > A proper solution requires Portage changes. Unfortunately, for some > packages waiting a year or more to fix something isn't an option. Maybe not, if we just make man and info two useflags enabled by default in all profiles and change one-

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:39:48 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Core packages or not, they are all broken. When the requirement came | up, the respective maintainers should have spoken up so that a proper | solution could be found. When are the quick hacks going to stop? :| A proper s

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 16:28 +, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 11:12:32AM -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 00:48 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > On Monday 28 November 2005 00:05, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > > 3) FEATURES="noman" is dropped in favour of USE="man" o

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 27 November 2005 17:12, Ned Ludd wrote: > USE=(man|info|doc) wont quite work. > While they could have an advantage that you can use them to control > depend strings the doc use flag has already been heavily used for other > things which everybody surely wont want. As vapier said, doc usef

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 11:12:32AM -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 00:48 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Monday 28 November 2005 00:05, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > 3) FEATURES="noman" is dropped in favour of USE="man" or USE="manpages" > > > > > > In light of the above requirements a

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Ned Ludd
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 00:48 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Monday 28 November 2005 00:05, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > 3) FEATURES="noman" is dropped in favour of USE="man" or USE="manpages" > > > > In light of the above requirements and the fact that dyn_* will likely be > > moved into the tree down t

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 28 November 2005 00:05, Jason Stubbs wrote: > 3) FEATURES="noman" is dropped in favour of USE="man" or USE="manpages" > > In light of the above requirements and the fact that dyn_* will likely be > moved into the tree down the track, #3 seems to be the best in my mind. > Similarly, it wou

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 27 November 2005 23:50, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Sunday 27 November 2005 15:39, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > Core packages or not, they are all broken. When the requirement came up, > > the respective maintainers should have spoken up so that a proper > > solution could be found.

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 27 November 2005 23:43, Jakub Moc wrote: > 27.11.2005, 15:39:48, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Sunday 27 November 2005 22:09, Ned Ludd wrote: > >> On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 07:58 -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > >> > On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 12:46 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > >> > > Except that no{man,info

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 27 November 2005 23:50, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Sunday 27 November 2005 15:39, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > Core packages or not, they are all broken. When the requirement came up, > > the respective maintainers should have spoken up so that a proper > > solution could be found.

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 27 November 2005 15:39, Jason Stubbs wrote: > Core packages or not, they are all broken. When the requirement came up, > the respective maintainers should have spoken up so that a proper solution > could be found. When are the quick hacks going to stop? :| Is my mail enough as a speak-up

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 23:39 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Sunday 27 November 2005 22:09, Ned Ludd wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 07:58 -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > > > On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 12:46 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > > > > Except that no{man,info,doc} are on the to-die list anyway. > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 27 November 2005 22:09, Ned Ludd wrote: > On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 07:58 -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 12:46 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > > > Except that no{man,info,doc} are on the to-die list anyway. > > > > They are very valuable features and quite easy to use without m

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 07:58 -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 12:46 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:49:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > | Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be an

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Ned Ludd
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 12:46 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:49:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be answered (so that > > | we can make it a sort of rule). > > | H

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 25/11/2005 11:46:54, Marius Mauch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Except that no{man,info,doc} are on the to-die list anyway. When you say 'to-die' do you mean completely removed, or do you mean replaced with {man,info,doc} (i.e. removing inverted logic)? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:43:23 -0500 Michael Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > man pages can't be considered optional (despite what RMS says). | > They're | > not fancy extra HTML API documentation, they're core, so they don't | > get a USE flag. | | (not advocatin

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 12:46:54PM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:49:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten??" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >| Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be answered (so that > >| we can make it a sort of rule). > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 25 November 2005 08:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Of course, if FEATURES were in the USE expand list, you could use > ! features_noman ? ( ) ... All the way up until FEATURES="noman" is changed to FEATURES="man"... -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Michael Cummings
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > man pages can't be considered optional (despite what RMS says). They're not fancy extra HTML API documentation, they're core, so they don't get a USE flag. (not advocating a USE flag bug...) what about when the man pages are a duplication of the native documentation?

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Marius Mauch
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:49:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be answered (so that | we can make it a sort of rule). | How should manpages that are generated be managed? | | The common sense and

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 25 November 2005 00:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > man pages can't be considered optional (despite what RMS says). They're > not fancy extra HTML API documentation, they're core, so they don't get > a USE flag. I know (and I *really* don't like info for one) but I think I'd rather disable

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:49:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be answered (so that | we can make it a sort of rule). | How should manpages that are generated be managed? | | The common sense and looking to other ebuilds