Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-04 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 3. März 2018, 15:39:50 CET schrieb Michał Górny: > > That's not a solution. That's cheap a cheap excuse that works for one > package, for today. It does not solve the generic case, it does not mean > that other members of toolchain or any other team will not end up having > to remember

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-03 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Andreas, "Andreas K. Huettel" writes: > Well, in principle the idea is OK. We already/still keep some old > glibc, gcc, and binutils versions for that reason. > > However, I have a few conditions. > > * Only masked. Only prefix keywords. Not problem for masking. For keywords, prefix-standal

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-03 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Michał, Michał Górny writes: >> I am on the toolchain alias, and I am interested in joining the project. >> I will be responsible to deal with all the bugs for glibc-2.16 and >> glibc-2.19. Bug wranglers' work load does not change. >> >> Yes, I apologize this will generate some noise for to

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-03 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu sob, 03.03.2018 o godzinie 22∶51 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu napisał: > Hi Michał, > > Michał Górny writes: > > > > I am sure you are aware that Prefix has two variants: one is > > > prefix-rpath targeting MacOS, Solaris, AIX, Cygwin, Interix and a subset > > > of GNU/Linux; the other is p

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-03 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Andreas, I really appreciate your interest as I am try to convince our fellows. "Andreas K. Huettel" writes: > another option would be to (try to) revive glibc-2.5, 2.12, and 2.17 > instead. > Yes I know they are even older, but these are the versions that RHEL > uses, and for which RH stil

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-03 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Michał, Michał Górny writes: >> I am sure you are aware that Prefix has two variants: one is >> prefix-rpath targeting MacOS, Solaris, AIX, Cygwin, Interix and a subset >> of GNU/Linux; the other is prefix-standalone, targeting GNU/Linux and >> Android/Linux.[1] >> >> For LLVM example, it is

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-03 Thread Benda Xu
Hi William and Alec, Yes, I hear you. What I want to do is not randomly throwing upstream-unmaintained package versions into Gentoo tree. But the opposite, 1 specially maintained glibc ebuild serving as a compatible layer will isolate the obsolete linux kernel from the modern Gentoo tree. Syn

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2018, 11:57:37 CET schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > > > https://git.centos.org/summary/rpms!glibc.git > > 2.5 and 2.12 aren't there, but for 2.17 it looks good, this seems to be the > complete patchset. We should be able to translate that into a gentoo branch. ... except tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2018, 11:20:36 CET schrieb James Le Cuirot: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:10:13 +0100 > > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > > another option would be to (try to) revive glibc-2.5, 2.12, and 2.17 > > instead. > > > > You maybe won't get the full details of the changes but all th

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-28 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:10:13 +0100 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > another option would be to (try to) revive glibc-2.5, 2.12, and 2.17 instead. > > Yes I know they are even older, but these are the versions that RHEL uses, > and > for which RH still provides support (until 2020 for 2.5, 2024 fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 25. Februar 2018, 07:17:47 CET schrieb Benda Xu: > Hi all, > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running > antique kernels such as 2.6.8 and 2.6.18... Benda, another option would be to (try to) revive glibc-2.5, 2.12, and 2.17 instead. Yes I know they are ev

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-26 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu nie, 25.02.2018 o godzinie 19∶31 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu napisał: > Hi Michał, > > Michał Górny writes: > > > I don't think this is the first old version Prefix team needs keeping. > > Another example are old versions of LLVM. > > I am sure you are aware that Prefix has two variants:

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 25. Februar 2018, 07:17:47 CET schrieb Benda Xu: > Hi all, > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running > antique kernels such as 2.6.8 and 2.6.18. In my experience, many of > them are data acquisition hubs or computing clusters. No administrator > cares abou

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 12:22 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:10:26AM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > > W dniu nie, 25.02.2018 o godzinie 15∶17 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu > > napisał: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running >

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-26 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:10:26AM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu nie, 25.02.2018 o godzinie 15∶17 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu > napisał: > > Hi all, > > > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running > > antique kernels such as 2.6.8 and 2.6.18. In my experience, many

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-25 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Michał, Michał Górny writes: > I don't think this is the first old version Prefix team needs keeping. > Another example are old versions of LLVM. I am sure you are aware that Prefix has two variants: one is prefix-rpath targeting MacOS, Solaris, AIX, Cygwin, Interix and a subset of GNU/Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-25 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu nie, 25.02.2018 o godzinie 18∶25 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu napisał: > Hi Michał, > > Michał Górny writes: > > > > So I would like to hear what you guys think if I: > > > > > > - keep glibc-2.19 and glibc-2.16 in tree and unmasking them in the > > > selected Prefix profiles; > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-25 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Michał, Michał Górny writes: >> So I would like to hear what you guys think if I: >> >> - keep glibc-2.19 and glibc-2.16 in tree and unmasking them in the >> selected Prefix profiles; >> >> - maintain those selected outdated glibc versions on the >> infrastructure of the To

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-25 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu nie, 25.02.2018 o godzinie 15∶17 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu napisał: > Hi all, > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running > antique kernels such as 2.6.8 and 2.6.18. In my experience, many of > them are data acquisition hubs or computing clusters. No administrat