Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-29 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 08/24/2016 10:08, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mié, 24-08-2016 a las 16:05 +0200, Lars Wendler escribió: >> > [...] >> Oh, and to all new team members: >> Please keep in mind to *not* use EAPI-6 for base-system packages yet, >> so >> we can retain a somewhat stable upgrade path even for very old >> s

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-27 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/25/2016 01:01 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:17:58 + > "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > >> Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today >> it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one >> maintainer. The packages with more tha

Re: Recruiting process (Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care)

2016-08-25 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 08/25/2016 11:59 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > Given that so much needs to be learned and a lot of trust goes into > developers, it's no surprise that we tend to take our time accepting > people. That said, I chalk it up to a manpower problem. As far as I know > the recruiting and proxy-maint tea

Re: Recruiting process (Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care)

2016-08-25 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/24/2016 08:24 PM, Raymond Jennings wrote: > This...kinda touches on a side issue. I've been a bit waylaid by RL > issues during my quest to become a developer myself, and both of my > prospective mentors had to step aside for the same reason before the > process could finish. > > I'm a litt

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-25 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:17:58 + "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today > it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one > maintainer. The packages with more than one maintainer I'm only > concerned about if the othe

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-25 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:32:55 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Lars Wendler > wrote: > > Please keep in mind to *not* use EAPI-6 for base-system packages > > yet, so we can retain a somewhat stable upgrade path even for very > > old systems. > > What's the time fra

Recruiting process (Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care)

2016-08-24 Thread Raymond Jennings
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today > it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one > maintainer. The packages with more than one maintainer I'm only > concerned about if the other ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 24. August 2016, 16:05:05 schrieb Lars Wendler: > > Oh, and to all new team members: > Please keep in mind to *not* use EAPI-6 for base-system packages yet, so > we can retain a somewhat stable upgrade path even for very old systems. > That won't help anyone with upgrading. Large p

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 08:11:38PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:17:58PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > net-misc/dhcpcd (upstream?) > > I maintain dhcpcd; I'm not sure why it is on this list. > In fact, there is a stablereq still pending on 6.11.1-r1. > > Upstream i

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 04:05:05PM +0200, Lars Wendler wrote: > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:08:30 -0400 Anthony G. Basile wrote: > > >On 8/23/16 8:03 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: > >> I have some kind of interest for these packages: > > > >Lars, maybe once we get some names we should get a meeting of > >b

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/24/2016 11:32 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Lars Wendler > wrote: >> Please keep in mind to *not* use EAPI-6 for base-system packages yet, so >> we can retain a somewhat stable upgrade path even for very old systems. > > What's the time frame for lifting that

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > General increase in the number of developers in base-system would not be > a bad outcome from this email either ;-). I am considering joining, if only to have some input and greater transparency on decision making. For example, I have no

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Lars Wendler wrote: > Please keep in mind to *not* use EAPI-6 for base-system packages yet, so > we can retain a somewhat stable upgrade path even for very old systems. What's the time frame for lifting that restriction? There are some key packages that base-sys

Upgrading Old Gentoo - Was Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 24/08/16 15:08, Pacho Ramos wrote: > This reminds me a question I have for some time: is it documented in > some place what are the steps to follow for updating old systems? I > remember posts like: > http://blog.siphos.be/2013/12/upgrading-old-gentoo-installations/ > > but I don't know if that

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Lars Wendler
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:08:30 -0400 Anthony G. Basile wrote: >On 8/23/16 8:03 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: >> I have some kind of interest for these packages: > >Lars, maybe once we get some names we should get a meeting of >base-system together and coordinate our efforts. In particular, I >mostly ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 24-08-2016 a las 16:05 +0200, Lars Wendler escribió: > [...] > Oh, and to all new team members: > Please keep in mind to *not* use EAPI-6 for base-system packages yet, > so > we can retain a somewhat stable upgrade path even for very old > systems. > > > Kind regards > Lars This reminds

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Jason Zaman
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:17:58PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today > it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one > maintainer. The packages with more than one maintainer I'm only > concerned about if the o

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread Patrick McLean
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:17:58 + "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > Some of these packages are very niche, and while they continue to > work, they could use a bit more attention than they get presently > (you might only hear about them when they break and never when they > work). > > They are genera

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:17:58PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > net-misc/dhcpcd (upstream?) I maintain dhcpcd; I'm not sure why it is on this list. In fact, there is a stablereq still pending on 6.11.1-r1. Upstream is reachable on the #openrc chat channel. > sys-apps/baselayout I can become

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread Benda Xu
Hi, "Anthony G. Basile" writes: > maybe once we get some names we should get a meeting of > base-system together and coordinate our efforts. I am interested in keeping the base packages working on Prefix, especially bash and baselayout. Please count me in. Benda

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 8/23/16 8:03 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: > I have some kind of interest for these packages: Lars, maybe once we get some names we should get a meeting of base-system together and coordinate our efforts. In particular, I mostly have interest in those packages that make up @system for the stages I b

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread Lars Wendler
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:17:58 + Robin H. Johnson wrote: >Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today >it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one >maintainer. The packages with more than one maintainer I'm only >concerned about if the other maint

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 8/23/16 7:17 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today I've been doing some base-system related stuff because of uclibc/-ng and musl on minor arches, building stage3's for those. My involvement has been marginal because my emphasis is n