Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Guys, please, if you want to bikeshed about bug summary, please do it in a constructive way and get the automated bug assignment project going. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/66279 Otherwise, please reimburse the time I've spent reading this useless thread, TIA ;) (For the r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:43:12 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: >> If necessary the council can bless it, but I suspect >> that most will see the logic of your arguments, and perhaps together >> we'll even improve on it a little. > > If really really n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:43:12 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > 3. Everybody else can pitch in and help out so that you're not having > to reformat all those bugs on your own. This will increase the noise, we're still going to need to implement some kind of trivial edit flag and list to allow this to b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:32:25 +0200 Manuel Rüger wrote: > nothing of the taks you've listed enables you to proceed as you're > doing right now without an existing (i.e. written down) policy. I don't know what a taks is, but nothing in this volunteer project stops me from correcting your mistakes,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Manuel Rüger wrote: > nothing of the taks you've listed enables you to proceed as you're > doing right now without an existing (i.e. written down) policy. > I think this is the main concern being voiced here. Jer - can you perhaps consolidate your conventions arou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Manuel Rüger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/07/2013 08:01 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 19:07:55 +0200 Manuel Rüger > wrote: > > [...] > > I appreciate the kinder tone. > >> first of all I welcome and appreciate the work all members of >> the other bug wranglers pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 19:07:55 +0200 Manuel Rüger wrote: [...] I appreciate the kinder tone. > first of all I welcome and appreciate the work all members of the > other bug wranglers project[1] and you do. This is where you start to slip. I am not just a bug wrangler. - I maintain many hundreds

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Manuel Rüger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/06/2013 11:46 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > 23:37:25 rej, you have notes! [21:13] Let me > rephrase this: Just a friendly notice to please refrain from > rephrasing bug summaries from "Stabilize ${P}" to "${P} stable > req". This just adds un

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > Alexis was talking about KEYWORDREQ, not STABLEREQ. When asking to readd > a keyword, you almost always want that keyword for whatever is the > highest version in a specific slot, even if that version has been in the > tree for three da

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 09:35 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:04:28 +0200 > > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > >> That's fine, bug wranglers are doing a great job there. > >> > >> However, I'm also sick of getting bugmail bec

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:04:28 +0200 > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: >> That's fine, bug wranglers are doing a great job there. >> >> However, I'm also sick of getting bugmail because $RANDOM_DEV thinks >> * TRACKER is better than Tracker, >> * e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 14:41:14 +0200 hasufell wrote: > I don't see any issue here. You are a bug wrangler and should have the > authority to mess with anything in bugzilla. As far as I know people in that project are no different from people out of that project; you could start a similar project,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread hasufell
On 08/06/2013 11:46 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > 23:37:25 rej, you have notes! [21:13] Let me > rephrase this: Just a friendly notice to please refrain from rephrasing > bug summaries from "Stabilize ${P}" to "${P} stable req". This just > adds unneeded noise to the bug. I don't want this on bugs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:04:28 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > However, I'm also sick of getting bugmail because $RANDOM_DEV thinks > > * every atom needs a "=" in front, and > * "Please stabilize XXX" should always be replaced by "XXX > stabilization". For these two I've been guilty; but, th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 10:46:04 +0200 Kacper Kowalik wrote: > Not so hypothetical situation: someone files a bug: "Fancy KDE mail > program fails with my gcc", you fix it and live happily ever after. > How on earth am I supposed to find it when porting/stabilizing newer > version of gcc? > I expect

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 23:46:08 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > 23:37:25 rej, you have notes! [21:13] Let me > rephrase this: Just a friendly notice to please refrain from > rephrasing bug summaries from "Stabilize ${P}" to "${P} stable req". > This just adds unneeded noise to the bug. I don't want

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:04:28 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > That's fine, bug wranglers are doing a great job there. > > However, I'm also sick of getting bugmail because $RANDOM_DEV thinks > * TRACKER is better than Tracker, > * every atom needs a "=" in front, and This is wrong btw. Som

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/08/13 11:46, Kacper Kowalik wrote: Not so hypothetical situation: someone files a bug: "Fancy KDE mail program fails with my gcc", you fix it and live happily ever after. How on earth am I supposed to find it when porting/stabilizing newer version of gcc? I expect (as many others) something

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Kacper Kowalik
On 08/07/2013 11:04 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 7. August 2013, 10:46:04 schrieb Kacper Kowalik: >> On 08/07/2013 01:57 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >>> Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 23:46:08 schrieb Jeroen Roovers: 23:37:25 rej, you have notes! [21:13] Let me rephrase

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 7. August 2013, 10:46:04 schrieb Kacper Kowalik: > On 08/07/2013 01:57 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 23:46:08 schrieb Jeroen Roovers: > >> 23:37:25 rej, you have notes! [21:13] Let me > >> rephrase this: Just a friendly notice to please refrain from

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-07 Thread Kacper Kowalik
On 08/07/2013 01:57 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 23:46:08 schrieb Jeroen Roovers: >> 23:37:25 rej, you have notes! [21:13] Let me >> rephrase this: Just a friendly notice to please refrain from rephrasing >> bug summaries from "Stabilize ${P}" to "${P} stable req"

Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

2013-08-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 23:46:08 schrieb Jeroen Roovers: > 23:37:25 rej, you have notes! [21:13] Let me > rephrase this: Just a friendly notice to please refrain from rephrasing > bug summaries from "Stabilize ${P}" to "${P} stable req". This just > adds unneeded noise to the bug. I don't w