On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:22:54PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/14/2017 08:01 AM, Jason Zaman wrote:
> >
> > I'll give an example where revbumps are significantly inferior to
> > --changed-use.
> >
> > ... With --changed-use, only the people who need it (ie selinux
> > users) will reb
On 08/13/2017 03:11 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/12/2017 10:52 PM, Duncan wrote:
>>
>> How so? Are you arguing that deciding to system-wide switch to/from
>> pulseaudio, systemd, or gstreamer is nonsense?
>>
>
> The meaning of any one USE flag varies widely across packages. I could
> neve
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> But even if that's the case (I wouldn't know), it's the case due to a
> deliberate decision of those going "under the bus", because portage is
> the default, and by choosing to use some other PM, they've deliberately
> chose
On 08/14/2017 08:01 AM, Jason Zaman wrote:
>
> I'll give an example where revbumps are significantly inferior to
> --changed-use.
>
> ... With --changed-use, only the people who need it (ie selinux
> users) will rebuild and everyone is happy (selinux users because the
> program now works and no
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 09:05:58PM +1000, Michael Palimaka wrote:
> On 08/12/2017 08:29 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> >> On 08/12/2017 03:03 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Please provide some examples of recent in-place USE changes that
On 13/08/17 11:11, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/12/2017 10:52 PM, Duncan wrote:
>> How so? Are you arguing that deciding to system-wide switch to/from
>> pulseaudio, systemd, or gstreamer is nonsense?
>>
> The meaning of any one USE flag varies widely across packages. I could
> never say "I wa
On 08/12/2017 10:52 PM, Duncan wrote:
>
> How so? Are you arguing that deciding to system-wide switch to/from
> pulseaudio, systemd, or gstreamer is nonsense?
>
The meaning of any one USE flag varies widely across packages. I could
never say "I want to enable USE=gstreamer" for every package i
On 08/12/2017 10:32 PM, Duncan wrote:
>>
>> What if you fix a runtime issue by dropping a flag? It's more confusing
>> than it has to be: the USE flag exception interacts weirdly with all the
>> other rules.
>
> Bad example as it's a security vuln, which requires masking/removing
> vulnerable ver
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote:
> On 08/12/2017 08:29 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>>> On 08/12/2017 03:03 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
Please provide some examples of recent in-place USE changes that benefit
>>>
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Michael Palimaka
wrote:
> On 08/12/2017 09:50 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> Q. But what about the rebuilds?
>>
>> For most packages, the rebuilds simply don't matter. Unless you're
>> the maintainer of libreoffice, firefox, chromium, etc. -- just do the
>>
On 08/12/2017 12:22 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote:
>
>> Q. But what if I maintain firefox, and I need to change IUSE?
>>
>> If the IUSE change isn't important, just make the new revision in a
>> branch and wait to commit it later when there are more changes
>> piled up. If it is important (lik
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