On 15 February 2013 22:34, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> (But I would still argue that "spotting overlay usage" is not always as
> simple; at least in one case I got somebody who was trying to hide their
> use of proaudio.)
Users editing the output of emerge --info and hiding they overlay
usage is
On 15/02/2013 10:44, Alec Warner wrote:
> I empathize, but I'm not really sure it is a blocker for this effort.
> Developers already have to evaluate whether the bug the user filed is
> legitimate; I don't think this makes that significantly more
> difficult. As stated. spotting overlay usage is pr
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>
>
> I expect to see the full result one would have to emerge -epv
> [package] , at least that will report the repos for all *DEPENDs
> (although it is a bit overkill to have users submit that in the
> general case)
>
> There are also comma
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On 15/02/13 08:10 AM, Cyprien Nicolas wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 01:48:34PM +0100, Cyprien Nicolas wrote:
>> Not really, this works when the bug is opened against a given
>> package from an overlay. Diego's raised issue is about some
>> *DEPEND
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 01:48:34PM +0100, Cyprien Nicolas wrote:
> Not really, this works when the bug is opened against a given package
> from an overlay. Diego's raised issue is about some *DEPEND installed
> from an overlay, but the failing package is from the tree.
>
> emerge --info will not re
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On 15/02/13 13:58, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> Freedom is overrated, especially by those who use such sound
> bites.
Whilst you do get to decide how and if you choose to value my freedom,
you most certainly do *not* get to decide how I should rate it
On 15/02/2013 11:33, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> Yes. It's difficult to govern freedom.
Freedom is overrated, especially by those who use such sound bites.
Let me guess, you use CFLAGS="-O3 -funroll-loops"? I sure hope not.
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On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 09:39:34AM +, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 15 February 2013 00:19, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> > The problem is when you have to triple-check that the user hasn't
> > enabled some random fucked up overlay and you have to guess whether that
> > might be the cause of the p
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò
wrote:
> On 15/02/2013 01:15, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> How? We don't support overlays in the main tree. I could see a
>> package maintainer being nice if pinged by an overlay maintainer and
>> delaying some change for a short time to let an overl
On 15 February 2013 00:19, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> On 15/02/2013 01:15, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> How? We don't support overlays in the main tree. I could see a
>> package maintainer being nice if pinged by an overlay maintainer and
>> delaying some change for a short time to let an overlay be
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On 15/02/13 01:19, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> The problem is when you have to triple-check that the user hasn't
> enabled some random fucked up overlay and you have to guess whether
> that might be the cause of the problem.
Yes. It's difficult to g
Am 15.02.2013 01:19, schrieb Diego Elio Pettenò:
> On 15/02/2013 01:15, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> How? We don't support overlays in the main tree. I could see a
>> package maintainer being nice if pinged by an overlay maintainer and
>> delaying some change for a short time to let an overlay be updat
Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> > Stop complaining (and with foul language! come on, you sound like
> > an idiot, which seems unneccessary) and let's think about solutions.
>
> Your laziness makes you sound like an idiot too, thank you very much.
Send me constructive criticism in an email and I'll of
On 15/02/2013 02:56, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Stop complaining (and with foul language! come on, you sound like
> an idiot, which seems unneccessary) and let's think about solutions.
Your laziness makes you sound like an idiot too, thank you very much.
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Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> > Ah, I always thought of overlays as places where apps tend to reside,
> > but of course you could have glibc in there for all we know... Good
> > point...
>
> Welcome to the life of your average Gentoo ebuild maintainer.
Stop complaining (and with foul language! com
On 15/02/2013 02:18, Rich Freeman wrote:
> Ah, I always thought of overlays as places where apps tend to reside,
> but of course you could have glibc in there for all we know... Good
> point...
Welcome to the life of your average Gentoo ebuild maintainer.
> I'd think that this would be less of a
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò
wrote:
> The problem is when you have to triple-check that the user hasn't
> enabled some random fucked up overlay and you have to guess whether that
> might be the cause of the problem. Yes it happens, not so rarely.
Ah, I always thought of ove
On 15/02/2013 01:15, Rich Freeman wrote:
> How? We don't support overlays in the main tree. I could see a
> package maintainer being nice if pinged by an overlay maintainer and
> delaying some change for a short time to let an overlay be updated,
> but issues that impact overlays should not be co
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò
wrote:
>
> The presence of "dozens of overlays" _is_ hurting triaging and other
> issues. Things like proaudio overlay should die in a fire, and stop
> bothering us to begin with.
How? We don't support overlays in the main tree. I could see a
On 14/02/2013 23:47, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Why is the overlay bad for anyone? No dev is forced to contribute to it
> and no user has to activate it. There are dozens of overlays out there
> which are not meant to be activated unless you know what you are doing.
> I don't see how this can affect
Am 14.02.2013 22:55, schrieb Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina:
> On 02/14/2013 04:31 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
>> Hi guys and girls,
>
>> We hereby announce the formation of the Graveyard project [1]. It aims
>> to provide users with an overlay for packages removed from portage.
>> Users are expressly invit
On 14 February 2013 16:55, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
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> On 02/14/2013 04:31 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> > Hi guys and girls,
> >
> > We hereby announce the formation of the Graveyard project [1]. It aims
> > to provide users with an overlay fo
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On 14/02/13 04:55 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
> On 02/14/2013 04:31 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
>> Hi guys and girls,
>
>> We hereby announce the formation of the Graveyard project [1]. It
>> aims to provide users with an overlay for packages re
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