Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 28 January 2006 12:30, Marcelo Góes wrote: > On 1/28/06, Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The question here now actually is: "is csh worth the hassle, or not?" > > My opinion is that it is not. > > csh_is_not_worth_it++; > It is causing trouble and not adding functionality. Unless

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Marcelo Góes
On 1/28/06, Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The question here now actually is: "is csh worth the hassle, or not?" > My opinion is that it is not. csh_is_not_worth_it++; It is causing trouble and not adding functionality. Unless there are cases where tcsh is not backwards compatible, I say it

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Grobian
On 28-01-2006 01:47:27 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 12:05:30PM +0300, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote: > > To solve symlink problem I can suggest the following. > Rather than handling it manually, perhaps eselect can help handle it > consistently, and allow users to switch when

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Grobian
On 28-01-2006 09:38:05 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:31:55 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | In fact, I'd like to have only sh, because I never use bash. > > How did you become a Gentoo developer? Guess I forgot to put the word 'interactively' at the end of tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Saturday 28 January 2006 10:47, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Rather than handling it manually, perhaps eselect can help handle it > consistently, and allow users to switch when they have both csh and > tcsh installed. I started working on something like that for gtar/bsdtar, but I found that I don

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 12:05:30PM +0300, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote: > To solve symlink problem I can suggest the following. Rather than handling it manually, perhaps eselect can help handle it consistently, and allow users to switch when they have both csh and tcsh installed. -- Robin Hugh Johnso

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:31:55 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | In fact, I'd like to have only sh, because I never use bash. How did you become a Gentoo developer? -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (King of all Londinium) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Grobian
On 28-01-2006 12:05:30 +0300, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote: > On Срд, 2006-01-25 at 20:57 +0100, Grobian wrote: > > Are there any objections to removing csh from the tree? If there are no > > problems with csh removal before Feb 1st 2006, then I will starting from > > that date work on getting csh rem

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Срд, 2006-01-25 at 20:57 +0100, Grobian wrote: > Are there any objections to removing csh from the tree? If there are no > problems with csh removal before Feb 1st 2006, then I will starting from > that date work on getting csh removed by masking it, blocking tcsh and > csh, and request for upd

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-25 Thread Grobian
On 25-01-2006 16:19:54 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 15:47, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > The csh package currently has a maintainer who is an active Gentoo > > developer; have you spoken to taviso first to find out whether he > > wants to remove csh from the tree? > > la

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 15:47, Stuart Herbert wrote: > The csh package currently has a maintainer who is an active Gentoo > developer; have you spoken to taviso first to find out whether he > wants to remove csh from the tree? last we talked with taviso he had no problem punting csh -mike --

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-25 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi, On 1/25/06, Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because csh is rather old and tcsh can be used as replacement, I would > like to have csh removed from the tree, then have tcsh always providing > the symlink csh -> tcsh. The situation is a bit the same as Gentoo not > providing an ebuild for

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-25 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Grobian wrote: > Problem here is that creating a conditional symlink for csh -> tcsh is a > bit dirty, and leaves the user with a system that has no csh in case the > csh is unmerged after tcsh was installed. ... > Because csh is rather old and tcsh can be used as replacement, I would > like to h