Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-06-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On N, 2009-05-28 at 11:55 +0400, Peter Volkov wrote: > В Чтв, 14/05/2009 в 03:32 +0300, Mart Raudsepp пишет: > > Project maintainer-wanted > > = > > Mart, I think that it's good idea to create such project but with a > different goals. I think currently maintainer-wanted al

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-06-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On K, 2009-05-20 at 11:36 -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > > The maintainer-wanted team owns that foo package then, which is why > > having a different mail alias than the existing one for "new package > > requests that aren't in gentoo tree yet" would be a good idea. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-28 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 14/05/2009 в 03:32 +0300, Mart Raudsepp пишет: > Project maintainer-wanted > = Mart, I think that it's good idea to create such project but with a different goals. I think currently maintainer-wanted alias is missed by most developers: new packages are assigned there

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-20 Thread Richard Freeman
Mart Raudsepp wrote: The maintainer-wanted team owns that foo package then, which is why having a different mail alias than the existing one for "new package requests that aren't in gentoo tree yet" would be a good idea. Ok, I think I see where you're coming from. Essentially maintainer-wan

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 10:50 -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > > Liking and using the package yourself shouldn't be a prerequisite for a > > package getting to be in-tree by the maintainer-wanted team. > > How about actually maintaining the package? Yes, actually maintai

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 06:25 -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: > > if you want to exaggerate a bit, we have roughly 500 ebuilds in > portage > > which are maintainer-needed and have only a few users and thats why > you > > want to keep popular packages out of the tree? > > > > Actually, where any of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 19:24 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2009.05.14 01:32, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > Hello, > > > [snip] > > > Project maintainer-wanted > > = > > > > Abstract: > > There are currently quite some packag

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-17 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Am Donnerstag, den 14.05.2009, 20:48 +0200 schrieb Thomas Sachau: > This is already done. darkside/idl0r did/do suggest sunrise to all > maintainer-wanted bugs, that meet > some specific criteria. noticed that, and i'd like to give a "thanks guys" for doing so :) > But have to say, while hundred

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-15 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/5/15 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) : > > Thilo Bangert wrote: >> >> Fedora is a much more current distribution than Gentoo - and has been for >> a couple of years... > > Please elaborate what exactly you think Fedora does better than we do. I have > no > first-hand experience with Fedora, but from

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-15 Thread Richard Freeman
Thilo Bangert wrote: AFAIK, we have never explicitly made this distinction clear. if we had, we would have to remove stuff from portage which doesnt live up to the standards. I'm all for that. In reality we tend to leave them alone until a security issue actually comes up, which is probabl

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thilo Bangert wrote: > Richard Freeman said: >> AllenJB wrote: >>> All that's going to happen is Gentoo will have many many buggy and >>> out of date packages in the MAIN TREE. Exactly where they shouldn't >>> be. You claim quality won't be sacrificed

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-15 Thread Thilo Bangert
Richard Freeman said: > AllenJB wrote: > > All that's going to happen is Gentoo will have many many buggy and > > out of date packages in the MAIN TREE. Exactly where they shouldn't > > be. You claim quality won't be sacrificed, but I simply can't see > > this without any attempt to solve the manp

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-14 Thread Thomas Sachau
Roy Bamford schrieb: > We could use user contributed ebuilds attached to bugs as a way to > bring Sunrise to the contributors attention just by posting a comment > to the bug. If the contributor follows up, we get another user > maintained ebuild in Sunrise, which is good, as the current develop

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-14 Thread Roy Bamford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.05.14 01:32, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > [snip] > Project maintainer-wanted > = > > Abstract: > There are currently quite some package requests (over 3000) > languishing > on bugzilla waiting for a developer or te

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-14 Thread Thomas Sachau
Mart Raudsepp schrieb: >> If people are a) too lazy to contribute to sunrise, b) don't >> know about sunrise, or c) don't know enough about ebuilds to contribute >> to sunrise, then we need to fix[1] that. > > Sure, the sunrise project can do all of that. That doesn't make the > packages availab

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-14 Thread Richard Freeman
Mart Raudsepp wrote: Liking and using the package yourself shouldn't be a prerequisite for a package getting to be in-tree by the maintainer-wanted team. How about actually maintaining the package? For example, user contributes ebuild for foo-1.0. I don't use it or like it, but I go ahead

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-14 Thread Richard Freeman
AllenJB wrote: All that's going to happen is Gentoo will have many many buggy and out of date packages in the MAIN TREE. Exactly where they shouldn't be. You claim quality won't be sacrificed, but I simply can't see this without any attempt to solve the manpower issues first. Isn't the purp

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-14 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On N, 2009-05-14 at 14:02 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: > On Thursday 14 May 2009 03:32:12 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have had this project in my mind for a while, so it's about time to > >[..] > I think there is no need for this project. Developers can always browse > bugzilla and

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Thursday 14 May 2009 03:32:12 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > I have had this project in my mind for a while, so it's about time to >[..] I think there is no need for this project. Developers can always browse bugzilla and pick every 'maintainer-wanted' ebuild they like. At least this is wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-14 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 20:47 -0500, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > Hello, Hey, > > I have had this project in my mind for a while, so it's about time to > > get it out there, as to see if feedback finds it a good one - and if > > that is so, if there are people who want to make it

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-13 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 14-05-2009 a las 03:32 +0300, Mart Raudsepp escribió: > Hello, > > I have had this project in my mind for a while, so it's about time to > get it out there, as to see if feedback finds it a good one - and if > that is so, if there are people who want to make it happen. > It is worded as a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-13 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Mart Raudsepp wrote: Hello, I have had this project in my mind for a while, so it's about time to get it out there, as to see if feedback finds it a good one - and if that is so, if there are people who want to make it happen. Hmm, I wonder what the point is when there is 400 maintainer-neede

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-13 Thread AllenJB
Mart Raudsepp wrote: Hello, I have had this project in my mind for a while, so it's about time to get it out there, as to see if feedback finds it a good one - and if that is so, if there are people who want to make it happen. It is worded as a hypothetical project description for the purpose of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-13 Thread Gokdeniz Karadag
Hi, The project would be very beneficial if it gets live. But from the very start its name should be unambigious, I would suggest "community-maintained" as the name, including both the developer community and user community. And also, the project should advise the sunrise overlay for packages wit