Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:24:59 +0200 Tobias Scherbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think this is a fun way to build some team spirit. > > > > Thoughts? > > I think it's a *very* bad idea - both from a QA and a "team spirit" > point of view. > Instead of having such "commitfests" and bounties f

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-21 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Doty wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just a random thought that popped into my head: We could have a commit fest where everyone who wants to compete kicks in some small amount of money(say $5) maybe the foundation kicks in a little something too. Then the person with

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-21 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:43:34 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | fixing the mess left by others (given we could commit slightly off | stuff in 8 hours) is a pretty equivalent way to raise the commits | level. Fixing the mess left by others is a lot harder than making a mess to begin wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-21 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:44:50 -0700 "Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's not the commits that should be encouraged - it's the > bug fixing, and GWN section on bugzilla stats is pretty good. Actually, bug fixing, i.e. closing bugs, is not representative of the work you put

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-21 Thread Stephen Bennett
I was going to reply to this, but I think Tobias just said everything I was planning to. The first sentence in particular. On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:24:59 +0200 Tobias Scherbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think this is a fun way to build some team spirit. > > > > Thoughts? > > I think it's a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-21 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
> I think this is a fun way to build some team spirit. > > Thoughts? I think it's a *very* bad idea - both from a QA and a "team spirit" point of view. Instead of having such "commitfests" and bounties for the one who managed to get as many as possible commits done within - say - 5 minutes I'd ra

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-21 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
Luca Barbato wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: It's offering incentives to get as many commits as possible. The easiest way to get as many commits as possible is to go on a mass keywording or stabling spree. It'd be very easy for someone to do a Manson -- do you really think no-one would? Even if n

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-21 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > It's offering incentives to get as many commits as possible. The > easiest way to get as many commits as possible is to go on a mass > keywording or stabling spree. It'd be very easy for someone to do a > Manson -- do you really think no-one would? Even if no-one does t

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-21 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:00:26 -0500 Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I think this is a fun way to build some team spirit. I think it's a fun way to ruin QA by encouraging peop

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
So, are you proposing to encourage people to do commits for the sake of commits? Make people do revbumps/keywording just to get their commits in, without doing proper testing? Or to hold on number of commits till commitfest? It's not the commits that should be encouraged - it's the bug fixing, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:17:08 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:00:26 -0500 Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > wrote: | > | I think this is a fun way to build some team spirit. | > | > I think it's a fun way to ruin QA by encouraging

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:00:26 -0500 Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | I think this is a fun way to build some team spirit. > > I think it's a fun way to ruin QA by encouraging people to commit > broken stuff. How exactly does it do that? Thanks, Donnie signatu

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:00:26 -0500 Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I think this is a fun way to build some team spirit. I think it's a fun way to ruin QA by encouraging people to commit broken stuff. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web : htt

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Mike Doty wrote: --[PinePGP]--[begin]-- Just a random thought that popped into my head: We could have a commit fest where everyone who wants to compete kicks in some small amount

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Luca Barbato
Mike Doty wrote: > > Thoughts? > - hall of fame is nice, money isn't - we all know that Flameeyes and vapier will be at the top =) -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 20 October 2006 22:08, Dan Meltzer wrote: > /me can see the kde team (flameeyes) holding off on committing a new > release until a commit fest :/ No need for a new release.. Transforming all the patches to pachsets, removing an old version, changing a variable name ... there's a lot of s

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 10:42:43PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: > money-- ++ As said in some other mail, stats in GWN or something like that would be nice - kloeri already did some nice graphs (see planet). > We aren't all on the same currency and everyone is volunteers. You're just jealous because

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2006.10.20 21:00, Mike Doty wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just a random thought that popped into my head: We could have a commit fest where everyone who wants to compete kicks in some small amount of money(say $5) maybe the foundation kicks in a little something too.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Chris White
On Friday 20 October 2006 14:15, Michael Crute wrote: > How about beer? Thats where all the money goes anyhow ;-) I'm sure that recruiters would have a beautiful time trying to keep up with the new developer requests. -- Chris White Gentoo Developer aka: xx (Scissors Were Here) xx pgpl

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Michael Crute
On 10/20/06, Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just a random thought that popped into my head: We could have a commit fest where everyone who wants to compete kicks in some small amount of money(say $5) maybe the foundation kicks in a little some

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Mike Doty wrote: > Just a random thought that popped into my head: > > We could have a commit fest where everyone who wants to compete kicks in > some small amount of money(say $5) maybe the foundation kicks in a > little something too. Then the person wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Grobian
On 20-10-2006 15:00:26 -0500, Mike Doty wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Just a random thought that popped into my head: > > We could have a commit fest where everyone who wants to compete kicks in > some small amount of money(say $5) maybe the foundation kicks in a S

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Dan Meltzer
On 10/20/06, Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just a random thought that popped into my head: We could have a commit fest where everyone who wants to compete kicks in some small amount of money(say $5) maybe the foundation kicks in a little some