Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > On Sat, 23 Mar 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >> Today I tried to boot latest install ISO (from January) and hit this >> bug: >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455924 >> >> This breaks a lot of hardware requiring firmwares (

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Ben Kohler
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Tend to agree. To install Gentoo you really just need a shell, the > ability to partition and create filesystems, some basic networking > (even that is somewhat optional), and a text editor. Sure, a browser > and such is a real nice-to-ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > Thing is that SRCD does a lot more things than our mini ISO does. > As a result, keeping it going on half a dozen architectures is > more work than maintaining our arguably very simple images. There > is a reason why we abandoned making th

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > I don't think it seems easy. But nor does devoting time to a CD > that will only serve the purpose of installing Gentoo on these > architectures. Additionally, that strikes me as seriously > pointless if contributing to SysRescCd is a real alte

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 25/03/13 13:20, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: >>> SysRescueCD does not exist for the fringe architectures. >> Then make it. That way we will have a reliable install medium for >> all architectures, an as

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > > SysRescueCD does not exist for the fringe architectures. > Then make it. That way we will have a reliable install medium for all > architectures, an as an added bonus we will have helped a different > free software project become more useful

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 25/03/13 10:32, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > Are you saying you want to give [off-mainstream architectures] the > boot? No. > SysRescueCD does not exist for the fringe architectures. Then make it. That way we will have a reliable install medium for

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sun, 24 Mar 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 24/03/13 21:17, Ben Kohler wrote: > > I strongly believe it's important that we have an official install > > medium [that] the official installation handbook is based [on]. > I agree.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 25-03-2013 a las 01:39 +, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto escribió: [...] > In the meantime, anyone interested in new stages / isos, are free and > welcome to test the ones built on my own server (using the official > specs)[1]. Why not point officially to your ISOs then? They look "offic

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote: Today I tried to boot latest install ISO (from January) and hit this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455924 This breaks a lot of hardware requiring firmwares (like some wireless drivers) Could a new ISO set be released? I'm working on it.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread W. Trevor King
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 09:55:05PM +0100, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 24/03/13 21:17, Ben Kohler wrote: > > I strongly believe it's important that we have an official install > > medium [that] the official installation handbook is based [on]. > > I agree. Let's make it SystemRescueCd. This is

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/03/13 21:17, Ben Kohler wrote: > I strongly believe it's important that we have an official install > medium [that] the official installation handbook is based [on]. I agree. Let's make it SystemRescueCd. - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net h

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Ben Kohler
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 24/03/13 20:32, Ben Kohler wrote: > > I really feel like we should still have an official minimal iso > Feelings do not matter. > > - -- > Alexander > Just to add a bit more, to g

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Ben Kohler
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 24/03/13 20:32, Ben Kohler wrote: > > I really feel like we should still have an official minimal iso > Feelings do not matter. > > - -- > Alexander > As a very active contributor

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/03/13 20:32, Ben Kohler wrote: > I really feel like we should still have an official minimal iso Feelings do not matter. - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net http://plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GN

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Ben Kohler
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Making an install ISO is as pointless as writing a CMS for > Gentoo.org... Gentoo should only bother if it is really necessary. > > ZSH-related bugs fixed ? Link SystemRescueCD : Link

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Making an install ISO is as pointless as writing a CMS for Gentoo.org... Gentoo should only bother if it is really necessary. ZSH-related bugs fixed ? Link SystemRescueCD : Link something else - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net http://plaimi.net/~

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 04:11:14PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/23/2013 02:50 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El sáb, 23-03-2013 a las 14:40 -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina > > escribió: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 24/03/13 06:30, Ben de Groot wrote: On 24 March 2013 09:17, Dale wrote: Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:40:16 schrieb Markos Chandras: Why not officially recommend SystemRescueCD instead? Looks really bad to recommend another installation media (even if it is base

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Philip Webb
130324 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 24 March 2013 09:17, Dale wrote: >> Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >>> Seriously. SystemRescueCD is more or less exactly what we would need. >> I must confess, I have not used the official Gentoo ISOs in ages. >> I use the SystemRescueCD from a USB stick all the time. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Ben de Groot
On 24 March 2013 09:17, Dale wrote: > Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:40:16 schrieb Markos Chandras: Why not officially recommend SystemRescueCD instead? >>> Looks really bad to recommend another installation media (even if it >>> is based on Gentoo) to people

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Dale
Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:40:16 schrieb Markos Chandras: >>> Why not officially recommend SystemRescueCD instead? >>> >> Looks really bad to recommend another installation media (even if it >> is based on Gentoo) to people who want >> to install our distro. I'd rathe

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:40:16 schrieb Markos Chandras: > > Why not officially recommend SystemRescueCD instead? > > > Looks really bad to recommend another installation media (even if it > is based on Gentoo) to people who want > to install our distro. I'd rather Gentoo recommended the live

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 06:42:14PM +, Markos Chandras wrote: > I do have a feeling that the quality of our ISOs has degraded over the > last year. I've seen too many bugs about our installation media. > In the past I asked what it takes to become part of the releng team > and I was told that th

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-03-2013 a las 21:28 +0100, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: > Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:11:14 schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > > > > The installation media has been totally useless on a large bit of > > hardware for over three months. We should just suggest SystemRescueCD > > if no one can b

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On 23 March 2013 20:28, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:11:14 schrieb Michael Orlitzky: >> >> The installation media has been totally useless on a large bit of >> hardware for over three months. We should just suggest SystemRescueCD >> if no one can be bothered to make Ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:11:14 schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > > The installation media has been totally useless on a large bit of > hardware for over three months. We should just suggest SystemRescueCD > if no one can be bothered to make Gentoo installable. While that sounds harsh, it also soun

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/2013 02:50 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El sáb, 23-03-2013 a las 14:40 -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina > escribió: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/23/2013 02:06 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> Today I tried to boot latest

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/2013 02:50 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El sáb, 23-03-2013 a las 14:40 -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina escribió: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/23/2013 02:06 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> Today I tried to boot latest

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-03-2013 a las 14:40 -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/23/2013 02:06 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Today I tried to boot latest install ISO (from January) and hit this > > bug: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On 23 March 2013 18:06, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Today I tried to boot latest install ISO (from January) and hit this > bug: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455924 > > This breaks a lot of hardware requiring firmwares (like some wireless > drivers) > > Could a new ISO set be released? > > Th

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/2013 02:06 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Today I tried to boot latest install ISO (from January) and hit this > bug: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455924 > > This breaks a lot of hardware requiring firmwares (like some wireless > drive