Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-18 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 14:11:11 + Roy Bamford wrote: > You can start with gcc-5.4 with the gcj use flag. > That will bootstrap icedtea:7 > icedtea:7 will bootstrap icedtea:8 > Tested on arm64. > > With icedtea:7 going and gcc-5.4 not having a very long future, > building icedtea for a new arch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-18 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Eating spam for breakfast! Glorious Spam! http://cdn.ipernity.com/142/50/59/32265059.4aebaf91.640.jpg https://landof1words.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/sir-can-a-lot.jpg On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 09:59:15 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > That is also the main reason for Icedtea project exis

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-18 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Forgot something useful On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 09:50:51 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > Otherwise yes, unless icedtea-bin exist for that arch. Boostrapping > in a post gcc-jdk/java 7 world will be difficult, If not impossible > for some archs. That is also the main reason for Icedtea pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-18 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 14:11:11 + Roy Bamford wrote: > > You can start with gcc-5.4 with the gcj use flag. > That will bootstrap icedtea:7 > icedtea:7 will bootstrap icedtea:8 > Tested on arm64. Your likely one of the few to do that :) That is good one does not have to go back to 1.5, and 1.6..

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-18 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2017.11.18 04:16, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 02:40:14 + > Peter Stuge wrote: > > > William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > > > If you have any suggestions as to what I should look at to > better > > > > understand the OpenJDK build system I would very much appreciate > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread R0b0t1
Hello again friends, On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:30 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Every bit contains useful technical information. Maybe make some effort > to package or help JDK on Gentoo vs a pointless comment. > Thank you for the information. I hope it didn't seem like I was asking you t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 02:40:14 + Peter Stuge wrote: > William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > > If you have any suggestions as to what I should look at to better > > > understand the OpenJDK build system I would very much appreciate > > > them. > .. > > Build OpenJDK stand alone. Get familiar with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread Peter Stuge
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > If you have any suggestions as to what I should look at to better > > understand the OpenJDK build system I would very much appreciate > > them. .. > Build OpenJDK stand alone. Get familiar with that. It used to be that one could not build OpenJDK without already

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:41:53 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 21:42:59 -0600 > Matthew Thode wrote: > > > > You seem to know a bit about this, has there been a bug made > > outlining the troubles we will encounter as you know them? > > No A user did file a bug for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 12:07:23 -0500 NP-Hardass wrote: > Oh come on! > > Triple posting to the ML? > > Do we really need to have another discussion about not being spammy... > Please... Think before you post... Yes you should think before you post! Every bit contains useful technical informatio

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread NP-Hardass
On 11/17/2017 04:15 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:24:47 -0500 > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: >> >> The icedtea from source ebuild is a result of RedHat. The main person >> at RedHat responsible for their open source Java is the author of >> Icedtea. He uses Gentoo a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:24:47 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > The icedtea from source ebuild is a result of RedHat. The main person > at RedHat responsible for their open source Java is the author of > Icedtea. He uses Gentoo as his development/test platform. Gentoo > usually will have th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
To really get crazy, another thing Gentoo likely won't see unless someone steps up. OpenJ9 alternative to HotSpot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJ9 https://github.com/ibmruntimes/openj9-openjdk-jdk9 https://www.slideshare.net/DanHeidinga/j9-under-the-hood-of-the-next-open-source-jvm -- Will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:23:58 -0600 R0b0t1 wrote: > > I am confused. I was aware that IcedTea was a build system, but I am > not aware as to how Ubuntu packaged OpenJDK 9. Not sure without looking, but likely just shipping the binary of OpenJDK http://download.java.net/java/GA/jdk9/9.0.1/binaries

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-16 Thread R0b0t1
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:30 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:38:09 -0600 > R0b0t1 wrote: >> >> Hopefully this is not a tangent, but the OpenJDK release is available >> on Ubuntu. I have tried to understand the IcedTea build process and >> failed, as I was hoping that i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-16 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:38:09 -0600 R0b0t1 wrote: > > Hopefully this is not a tangent, but the OpenJDK release is available > on Ubuntu. I have tried to understand the IcedTea build process and > failed, as I was hoping that it could be packaged for Gentoo before > the official IcedTea release. I w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-16 Thread R0b0t1
Hello friends! I am excited about Java 9. However, I am a very excitable person. Hopefully this is not a tangent, but the OpenJDK release is available on Ubuntu. I have tried to understand the IcedTea build process and failed, as I was hoping that it could be packaged for Gentoo before the offici

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-16 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 21:42:59 -0600 Matthew Thode wrote: > > You seem to know a bit about this, has there been a bug made outlining > the troubles we will encounter as you know them? No, I feel I am already doing more than I should to help given my past treatment. I have been making most issues wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-16 Thread Matthew Thode
On 17-11-16 15:17:15, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Just as a heads up, pass it along. For anyone interested. It will be > some time before Java 9 is available on Gentoo. It will take > considerable work to get it unmasked and safe for use. > > Once in tree masked, it will likely be very painful