Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-23 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 02:06, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Bringing up something I proposed previously... How about having teams > that are considered 'important' (not a fixed list; this can vary > depending upon what's going on) or 'to be having issues' deliver status > reports to the council for t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Lance Albertson
Simon Stelling wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: >> I generally try to do that, but after the 10th time the person doesn't >> respect you and demands things from you, its kind of hard to keep that >> mentality. > > Well, one out of >300. Simply do it for someone else then ;) > And that's what I do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Simon Stelling
Lance Albertson wrote: > I generally try to do that, but after the 10th time the person doesn't > respect you and demands things from you, its kind of hard to keep that > mentality. Well, one out of >300. Simply do it for someone else then ;) -- Kind Regards, Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64 Develop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:45:45 + Elfyn McBratney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 03:40:31PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:33:17 +0200 Simon Stelling | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | Respect is something that should be applied unconditionally,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Elfyn McBratney
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 03:40:31PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:33:17 +0200 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Respect is something that should be applied unconditionally, in my > | opinion. The "you don't so I won't" attitude gets us nowhere. > > But i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Lance Albertson
Simon Stelling wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: >> Frankly, the attitude of a lot devs lately towards infra >> have made many of us not want to communicate what we're doing. If we're > > I can understand that, partly. But that won't help anyone. Assuming > you're not thinking *nobody* outside infra

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:33:17 +0200 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Respect is something that should be applied unconditionally, in my | opinion. The "you don't so I won't" attitude gets us nowhere. But if respect is unearned and undeserved, it's meaningless. What's the point of being r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Simon Stelling
Lance Albertson wrote: > Frankly, the attitude of a lot devs lately towards infra > have made many of us not want to communicate what we're doing. If we're I can understand that, partly. But that won't help anyone. Assuming you're not thinking *nobody* outside infra does respect you, try to write

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Lance Albertson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | I request that these teams present status reports bi-weekly (thats one > | every two weeks). You don't even have to write the reports, I will > | volunteer to bug you every two weeks about what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Alec Warner
Marius Mauch wrote: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 > Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It has been noted that certain projects do not communicate their >> activities well. >> >> Many projects provide documentation for things(java), provide status >> updates on things(ppc), have bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It has been noted that certain projects do not communicate their > activities well. > > Many projects provide documentation for things(java), provide status > updates on things(ppc), have bits in the gwn (x86,userrel,amd6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:21:15 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | The problem with them delivering is that many would probably just not | show up. Hence why I said 'to the council for their monthly meeting', not 'at the council's monthly meeting'. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | I request that these teams present status reports bi-weekly (thats one > | every two weeks). You don't even have to write the reports, I will > | volunteer to bug you every two weeks about what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Alec Warner
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 > Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> [...] So below we have 3 large far-reaching projects. >> >> Gentoo Quality Assurance Team >> Gentoo Infrastructure Team >> Gentoo Portage Team >> Gentoo Foundation >> Gentoo Council >> >> All 5

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Joshua Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seemant Kulleen wrote: > Your concerns are well noted. The trustees in general are quiet even > amongst themselves, but I hope this changes with the new board coming in > next week (ish?). It's been my idea to propose that someone (tsunam was > in my

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I request that these teams present status reports bi-weekly (thats one | every two weeks). You don't even have to write the reports, I will | volunteer to bug you every two weeks about what is going on in your | project an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] So below we have 3 large far-reaching projects. > > Gentoo Quality Assurance Team > Gentoo Infrastructure Team > Gentoo Portage Team > Gentoo Foundation > Gentoo Council > > All 5 of these projects are active it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Seemant Kulleen
Your concerns are well noted. The trustees in general are quiet even amongst themselves, but I hope this changes with the new board coming in next week (ish?). It's been my idea to propose that someone (tsunam was in my head) publish a trustee monthly news or something. The one I'm curious about