Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-17 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 09:40:22PM +0200, Santiago M. Mola wrote: > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:43:59 +0200 > > Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > > > > > Okay. So we can just agree it's better if the maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-17 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:43:59 +0200 > Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > > > Okay. So we can just agree it's better if the maintainer tells his > > reasons when opening the bug, to spare the later clarificati

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:04:36 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 19:38 +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:33:17 +0300 > > Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > "It works. Do it." > > > > Oh by the way. This isn't directed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 19:38 +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:33:17 +0300 > Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "It works. Do it." > > Oh by the way. This isn't directed toward you personally, but I > personally detest this "do it" attitude. You wouldn't say that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:33:17 +0300 Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "It works. Do it." Oh by the way. This isn't directed toward you personally, but I personally detest this "do it" attitude. You wouldn't say that to my face, would you? (Trust me, you would regret it.) :) JeR -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:33:17 +0300 Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:43:59 +0200 > Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > > > Okay. So we can just agree it's better if the maintainer tells his > > reasons when opening the bug, to spare the later clarifica

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-17 Thread Samuli Suominen
Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:43:59 +0200 Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > Okay. So we can just agree it's better if the maintainer tells his > reasons when opening the bug, to spare the later clarifications? "It works. Do it." - drac -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-17 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Samuli Suominen wrote: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:09:24 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 11:49 +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote: thirty days is the norm for the minimal period between an ebuilds last It is the norm. It is not a requirement. In fact, it is spe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-16 Thread Samuli Suominen
Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:09:24 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 11:49 +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote: > > > thirty days is the norm for the minimal period between an ebuilds > > > last > > It is the norm. It is not a requirement. In fact, it is > specifical

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-16 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 11:49 +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote: > > thirty days is the norm for the minimal period between an ebuilds last It is the norm. It is not a requirement. In fact, it is specifically a "guideline" rather than a hard rule. It is up to the maintainer's discretion when to ask fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-16 Thread Richard Freeman
Vlastimil Babka wrote: Jeroen Roovers wrote: On the other hand, maybe these early stabilisation bug reports are a sign of the times and we need to shorten the normal thirty day period, become even more of a cutting edge distro - or at least discuss the options. I'd say leave the current norm a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-16 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Jeroen Roovers wrote: Dear ebuild maintainers, thirty days is the norm for the minimal period between an ebuilds last non-keywording change while in the tree and the usual call for stabilisation. If you cannot find a pressing reason to push stabilisation forward, then don't ask. In the las