Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Brian Harring wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 11:05:34AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > Next monthly council meeting will be at 19 April 2010, 18:00 UTC > > in #gentoo-council. > > > > If you have any topics you want us to discuss or even vote about, > > simply

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
I was asked on #gentoo-council to respond to this post so I will. It should also be noted council members usually speak as individual members instead of for the council as a whole. On 04/07/2010 06:00 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: >> 1. reconsider

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/09/2010 05:51 PM, Dror Levin wrote: > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:05, Denis Dupeyron wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: >>> So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that >>> affect all of Gentoo. The issues I brought up are wider than a sing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-09 Thread Dror Levin
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:05, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > > So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that > > affect all of Gentoo. The issues I brought up are wider than a single > > individual project. > > And almost 100

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:08:57 +0200 Patrick Lauer wrote: > > Please detail your cycle breaking algorithm that works in such a way > > that it's guaranteed not to toggle flags that will break a system, > > but that does not require any changes to be made to ebuilds etc > > telling the package manage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 04/08/10 15:29, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 05:02:25 -0700 > Brian Harring wrote: >> 4) if there are questions re: use cycle breaking or other bits, feel >> free to ask prior please- council meeting times unfortunately right >> now intersect badly with my paying work so it's h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 05:02:25 -0700 Brian Harring wrote: > 4) if there are questions re: use cycle breaking or other bits, feel > free to ask prior please- council meeting times unfortunately right > now intersect badly with my paying work so it's hard to be online to > answer questions during th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 11:05:34AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Next monthly council meeting will be at 19 April 2010, 18:00 UTC > in #gentoo-council. > > If you have any topics you want us to discuss or even vote about, > simply followup to this message. VALID_USE- http://archives.gentoo.org/g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-08 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/07/2010 12:05 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Next monthly council meeting will be at 19 April 2010, 18:00 UTC > in #gentoo-council. > > If you have any topics you want us to discuss or even vote about, > simply followup to this message. > > Ulrich > Two things already discussed on this maili

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Richard Freeman wrote: > Sure, it is the best way to make big changes Why then use anything else than the best tool when you can use the best tool? I didn't say that he should work on a GLEP though, but that he should "feel free" to do so, which is different. That

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Richard Freeman
On 04/07/2010 11:00 AM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: 5. centralize developer documentation = This is an interesting idea which I believe I have seen discussed on irc at some point. Feel free to work on a GLEP to address that. To be honest, this doesn't even need

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Ben de Groot
On 7 April 2010 23:02, Arun Raghavan wrote: > I don't understand what you expect the council to do in some of these > cases. Taking the website redesign or consolidation of documentation > as examples, do you want them to: > > a) Decide that this should be done? > b) Call for volunteers? (they obv

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Arun Raghavan
Hi Ben, On 7 April 2010 22:44, Ben de Groot wrote: [...] > "1.  Project Description > The elected Gentoo Council decides on global issues and policies that > affect multiple projects in Gentoo." > > GLEP 39 also says "Global issues will be decided by an elected Gentoo > council." > > So all I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Ben de Groot
On 7 April 2010 20:05, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: >> So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that >> affect all of Gentoo. The issues I brought up are wider than a single >> individual project. > > And almost 100% of the t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that > affect all of Gentoo. The issues I brought up are wider than a single > individual project. And almost 100% of the time this needs to run through a GLEP, which is the cas

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Ben de Groot
On 7 April 2010 17:00, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > Before we go any further, let me make the following PA announcement: > >  1 - If you want to improve a project or subproject the best (and > often only) thing to do is to join it. > >  2 - The council isn't a super-nanny metaproject with enough magica

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > 1. reconsider metadata changepolicies proposal > == [...] > Can council please decide to honor > the wish from developers to implement this? The council will be glad to vote on a GLEP when ready. Fro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Ben de Groot
On 7 April 2010 11:05, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Next monthly council meeting will be at 19 April 2010, 18:00 UTC > in #gentoo-council. > > If you have any topics you want us to discuss or even vote about, > simply followup to this message. 1. reconsider metadata changepolicies proposal ===