Re: [gentoo-dev] A policy to support random superuser account names

2010-05-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 03 May 2010 03:31:08 Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 2 May 2010 23:57:53 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > * Alec Warner schrieb: > > > Except as stated they are not fixed (as Fabian pointed out). I'm > > > happy to support something like setting ROOT_UID and ROOT_GID in > > > gentoo-x86 pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] A policy to support random superuser account names

2010-05-03 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 2 May 2010 23:57:53 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Alec Warner schrieb: > > > Except as stated they are not fixed (as Fabian pointed out). I'm > > happy to support something like setting ROOT_UID and ROOT_GID in > > gentoo-x86 profiles and using those. Then if you want to do > > some

Re: [gentoo-dev] A policy to support random superuser account names

2010-05-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Stefan Behte schrieb: > in some environments you have to rename "root" to something else, just > to be compliant to a (maybe dumb) security policy. This might be the > case for PCI, and as far as I remember, it is necessary (not just > "recommended") for a BSI Grundschutz certification (meaning

Re: [gentoo-dev] A policy to support random superuser account names

2010-05-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Krzysztof Pawlik schrieb: > Interesting... to me that's not only stupid but also kinda useless - there's > no > difference between brute-forcing a password for user named 'foo' or 'root' - > user name doesn't matter much. Actually according to my ssh logs attackers > usually don't even try roo

Re: [gentoo-dev] A policy to support random superuser account names

2010-05-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Alec Warner schrieb: > Except as stated they are not fixed (as Fabian pointed out). I'm > happy to support something like setting ROOT_UID and ROOT_GID in > gentoo-x86 profiles and using those. Then if you want to do something > utterly ridiculous to your system you can just set the appropria

Re: [gentoo-dev] A policy to support random superuser account names

2010-05-02 Thread Stefan Behte
02.05.2010 17:23, Krzysztof Pawlik wrote: > Interesting... to me that's not only stupid but also kinda useless - there's > no > difference between brute-forcing a password for user named 'foo' or 'root' - > user name doesn't matter much. > It's better to disable password-based remote login altoget

Re: [gentoo-dev] A policy to support random superuser account names

2010-05-02 Thread Stefan Behte
Hi, in some environments you have to rename "root" to something else, just to be compliant to a (maybe dumb) security policy. This might be the case for PCI, and as far as I remember, it is necessary (not just "recommended") for a BSI Grundschutz certification (meaning something like "basic securi

Re: [gentoo-dev] A policy to support random superuser account names

2010-05-02 Thread Krzysztof Pawlik
On 05/02/10 16:13, Stefan Behte wrote: > Hi, > > in some environments you have to rename "root" to something else, just > to be compliant to a (maybe dumb) security policy. This might be the > case for PCI, and as far as I remember, it is necessary (not just > "recommended") for a BSI Grundschutz

Re: [gentoo-dev] A policy to support random superuser account names

2010-04-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to put an emphasis on the fact that many eclasses > and ebuilds in gx86 are relying on an assumption that the superuser > account is always supposed to be named 'root'. > > In fact, no such constraint exists. Although

Re: [gentoo-dev] A policy to support random superuser account names

2010-04-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to put an emphasis on the fact that many eclasses > and ebuilds in gx86 are relying on an assumption that the superuser > account is always supposed to be named 'root'. > > In fact, no such constraint exists. Although

Re: [gentoo-dev] A policy to support random superuser account names

2010-04-30 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 30-04-2010 20:07:26 +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > In my opinion, that policy should clearly indicate that the numeric > UID/GID should be always used for referencing the superuser account > as they are fixed unlike the names. Just to complicate matters a bit, there are platforms where the equiva