On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 01:07:27AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:51:05 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | Transitioning from single news.unread to N is going to break clients
> | that expect a single.
>
> Yup.
>
> | As I said, you're going to break stuf
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:51:05 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Transitioning from single news.unread to N is going to break clients
| that expect a single.
Yup.
| As I said, you're going to break stuff- and you're building it into
| your glep out of (aparent) stubborness.
No no.
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:14:30AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:33:18 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:54:06PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> | > Well, if Portage ever gets multiple repository support, then news
> | > clients c
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:33:18 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:54:06PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:48:45 -0800 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > wrote:
| > | I wish you'd reconsider, because I was looking forward to multiple
|
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:54:06PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:48:45 -0800 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I wish you'd reconsider, because I was looking forward to multiple
> | repository support.
>
> Well, if Portage ever gets multiple repository support, the
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:48:45 -0800 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I wish you'd reconsider, because I was looking forward to multiple
| repository support.
Well, if Portage ever gets multiple repository support, then news
clients can be updated to handle it. The GLEP says that already.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| soon. The solution to that seems simple to me. Rather than have
| 'package manager' do anything, just have it provide hooks that will
| allow you to do your thing at the times you want.
Exactly what I am doing. Hence why I'm not making Portage know any more
than it reall
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:09:02 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| What's a 'PORTDIR'?
A PORTDIR is a well defined, widely used variable.
| What's a 'metadata'?
A metadata is a well defined, widely used directory in the tree.
| Outside of portage, these are also magic name voodoo.
Su
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 09:52, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:11:51 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | newsdir="$(portageq envvar PORTDIR)/metadata/news"
> | newsdir="$(portageq newsdir gentoo)"
> |
> | Both have one level of indirection. The first has two
For reference, I'm quoting this snippet from earlier in the thread:
Jason Stubbs wrote:
On Sunday 11 December 2005 10:35, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
.. Note:: Future changes to Portage involving support for multiple
repositories may require one news list per repository. Assuming
repositories have s
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:11:51 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| newsdir="$(portageq envvar PORTDIR)/metadata/news"
| newsdir="$(portageq newsdir gentoo)"
|
| Both have one level of indirection. The first has two hard coded
| elements. The first has one. Where is the massive over-indir
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 08:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:44:39 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | Modifications are required to portage anyway. Why postpone it until
> | after several readers are written and force all of them become broken?
>
> Because
Jason Stubbs wrote: [Tue Dec 13 2005, 05:44:39PM CST]
> > Wouldn't it suffice for the GLEP to simply have a statement that it will
> > query portage for a list of repositories, once there's a way to do that,
> > but until then the default repo will be assumed?
>
> Modifications are required to por
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:44:39 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Modifications are required to portage anyway. Why postpone it until
| after several readers are written and force all of them become broken?
Because there isn't a specification saying what the future changes to
Portage wi
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 07:12, Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Jason Stubbs wrote: [Mon Dec 12 2005, 07:51:51PM CST]
> > > | As I said already, there will immediately be a bug asking for overlay
> > > | support. Portage already supports multiple in a form whether anybody
> > > | likes it or not. How
Jason Stubbs wrote: [Mon Dec 12 2005, 07:51:51PM CST]
> > | There doesn't need to be a debate. This whole proposal doesn't care
> > | about portage compatibility whatsoever and it's exactly this style of
> > | thinking that slows down portage development (which everybody loves
> > | to complain abo
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:48, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:39:14 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | And how can that be adapted to work with overlays, completely
> | ignoring the possibility of distinct repositories. Overlays is
> | something that exists a
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:45, Andrew Muraco wrote:
> Jason Stubbs wrote:
> >On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:22, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >>On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:17:30 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>wrote:
> >>| So what are you going to do? I asked already but you didn't answer
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:39:14 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| And how can that be adapted to work with overlays, completely
| ignoring the possibility of distinct repositories. Overlays is
| something that exists already and news support for them is a request
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:39:14 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| And how can that be adapted to work with overlays, completely
| ignoring the possibility of distinct repositories. Overlays is
| something that exists already and news support for them is a request
| that will appear as so
Jason Stubbs wrote:
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:22, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:17:30 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| So what are you going to do? I asked already but you didn't answer.
| How are you going to find $PORTDIR/metadata/news?
At present, b
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:22, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:17:30 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | So what are you going to do? I asked already but you didn't answer.
> | How are you going to find $PORTDIR/metadata/news?
>
> At present, by using portageq
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:17:30 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| So what are you going to do? I asked already but you didn't answer.
| How are you going to find $PORTDIR/metadata/news?
At present, by using portageq with a hardcoded suffix. If in the future
Portage introduces new functi
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:11, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:51:51 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | Without a list of future features, you think the best way to go must
> | be the least agile? As Zac said, all that matters to keep full
> | compatibility on
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:51:51 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Without a list of future features, you think the best way to go must
| be the least agile? As Zac said, all that matters to keep full
| compatibility on the side of the readers is to add a level of
| indirection. All your
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 02:16, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:49:31 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | No need for a glep as far as portage support goes anymore than Ciaran
> | needs a glep to change or add syntax highlighting in vim.
>
> The difference is, V
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:49:31 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| No need for a glep as far as portage support goes anymore than Ciaran
| needs a glep to change or add syntax highlighting in vim.
The difference is, Vim syntax scripts are well established, and there
aren't any design iss
Jason Stubbs wrote:
[...]
> As I said already, there will immediately be a bug asking for overlay
> support.
> Portage already supports multiple in a form whether anybody likes it or not.
[...]
BTW I love that feature ;-)
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On Monday 12 December 2005 18:30, Duncan wrote:
> For example, if repository-id forms a part of the path and we define path
> parsing now, then we are effectively defining legal characters for
> repository-id now.
This is only of concern to portage developers.
> That's an entirely different glep
On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 22:31 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote:
> Point of Clarity,
>
> > and the ``mysql-5`` database format changes.
>
> These changes actually occured in mysql 4.1, not mysql-5
>
> > * The sender's first name ends in 'an', and they are not me.
Um, your first name ends in 'an' s
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