Daniel Drake wrote:
> Is the above correct?
AFAIK, yes.
Daniel Drake wrote:
> I can understand that the system may have been dreamed up with this in
> mind, and this certainly isn't an unreasonable design, but I don't see
> the corresponding text in the GLEP.
Which does not seem to be a problem t
I've tried to divide up the various things being discussed here.
Regarding paludis:
- The syntax change in question affects >=paludis-0.24
- The old syntax is still accepted
- A warning message is printed to the console by paludis when
the old (deprecated) syntax is detected
- The warnin
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Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> Piotr Jaroszy?ski wrote:
>> Hello,
>
>> Thanks to zmedico we now have support for news items on infra-side and heck
>> they are ready to use. And we should use them!
>
>> Attaching news item for paludis 0.24.
>>
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Piotr Jaroszy?ski wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thanks to zmedico we now have support for news items on infra-side and heck
> they are ready to use. And we should use them!
>
> Attaching news item for paludis 0.24.
> Justification: major config format change.
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 09:44:35PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > There's nothing critical about your * stuff.
>
> Sure there is. If users aren't informed about the change in an
> appropriate manner, the users get annoyed.
There's a lot of subjectivity in this sentence... "appropriate"...
"ann
On Sat, 05 May 2007 22:56:58 +0200
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not trying to sabotage anything but total misuse of the feature.
> Would have the same objections wrt whatever other "critical" news
> that'd constitute completely inappropriate usage of GLEP42 features.
> (And I'd expect
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 22:37:37 +0200
>
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Erm, not really? This is about proper usage of GLEP42 stuff.
>
> Yes, it is about proper usage of GLEP 42. This news item is one example
> of that.
>
> > There's nothing critical about your * st
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
>> There's nothing critical about your * stuff.
>
> Sure there is. If users aren't informed about the change in an
> appropriate manner, the users get annoyed.
>
> You're trying to sabotage this based upon arguments over wording
> technicalities. Where is your evidence
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 05 May 2007 22:03:08 +0200
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, then frankly feed those news to your overlay users
A good number of Paludis users don't use the overlay.
Because the above is clearly stupid - what are you really after here,
may I ask? I gue
Am Samstag 05 Mai 2007 22:44 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh:
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 22:37:37 +0200
>
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Erm, not really? This is about proper usage of GLEP42 stuff.
>
> Yes, it is about proper usage of GLEP 42. This news item is one example
> of that.
>
> > There's n
On Sat, 05 May 2007 22:37:37 +0200
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Erm, not really? This is about proper usage of GLEP42 stuff.
Yes, it is about proper usage of GLEP 42. This news item is one example
of that.
> There's nothing critical about your * stuff.
Sure there is. If users aren't in
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 22:19:27 +0200
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
>>> On Sat, 5 May 2007 22:00:27 +0200
>>> Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paludis users do see the need for a news item.
Not the question if palu
On Sat, 05 May 2007 22:19:27 +0200
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> > On Sat, 5 May 2007 22:00:27 +0200
> > Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Paludis users do see the need for a news item.
> >> Not the question if paludis users see the need. Not even
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sat, 5 May 2007 22:00:27 +0200
> Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Paludis users do see the need for a news item.
>> Not the question if paludis users see the need. Not even the question
>> if i see the need. The point is that GLEP 42 doesn't.
>
> GLEP 4
On Sat, 05 May 2007 22:03:08 +0200
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, then frankly feed those news to your overlay users
A good number of Paludis users don't use the overlay.
> Because the above is clearly stupid - what are you really after here,
> may I ask? I guess amne is right here.
On Sat, 5 May 2007 22:00:27 +0200
Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Paludis users do see the need for a news item.
>
> Not the question if paludis users see the need. Not even the question
> if i see the need. The point is that GLEP 42 doesn't.
GLEP 42 is designed to deliver important
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sat, 5 May 2007 21:18:38 +0200
> Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 06:46:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>> It warns noisily.
>> Then it's not even close to being broken and i don't see the need for
>> a news item.
>
> You don
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 08:29:14PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> You don't use Paludis.
Irrelevant to the issue at hand. We're discussing the (ab-)use of the
news system, not my personal choice of package manager.
> Paludis users do see the need for a news item.
Not the question if paludis us
On Sat, 5 May 2007 21:18:38 +0200
Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 06:46:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > It warns noisily.
>
> Then it's not even close to being broken and i don't see the need for
> a news item.
You don't use Paludis. Paludis users do se
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 06:46:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> It warns noisily.
Then it's not even close to being broken and i don't see the need for
a news item.
> It doesn't say how to fix it.
I'm sure that can be arranged even without a news item.
> > Imho the whole GLEP process is bei
On Saturday, May 5, 2007 07:46:47 PM Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> It warns noisily. It doesn't say how to fix it.
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... When making environment from specification '':
... When loading paludis configuration:
... When reading licenses file
On Sat, 5 May 2007 19:34:22 +0200
Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 06:21:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > So the only important question is whether the news items are useful
> > for the people who will see them. In this case we know the answer
> > is yes.
>
Wernfried Haas wrote:
> On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 06:21:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > So the only important question is whether the news items are useful for
> > the people who will see them. In this case we know the answer is yes.
>
> No one answered my question asked in Message-ID:
> <[EMA
Have there been news items yet, which mentioned changes in config files, which
did (as far as i understood it) not break the directly next version which is
upgraded too, but just made a bunch of warnings arise that the config file
uses the old format which now is deprecated, telling the user to
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 06:21:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> So the only important question is whether the news items are useful for
> the people who will see them. In this case we know the answer is yes.
No one answered my question asked in Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> what paludis actua
On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:08:50 +
"Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're arguing this news item will only be shown to paludis users, but
> you're forgetting that paludis users also use many other packages in
> the tree. Assume user X has many packages on his system includ
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 5 May 2007 13:44:54 +0200
> Maurice van der Pot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It looks like it is not clear enough what kind of news should be
>> called critical.
>
> It's quite simple. If something is of sufficient in
On Sat, 2007-05-05 at 16:51 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 5 May 2007 17:44:46 +0200
> Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why did I knew that this argument would come? Maybe because it's your
> > default reaction to any opposition.
>
> What, providing evidence to the contrary? Wh
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 5 May 2007 17:44:46 +0200
> Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Why did I knew that this argument would come? Maybe because it's your
>> default reaction to any opposition.
>
> What, providing evidence to the contrary? What more do you want?
>
This is such
On Sat, 5 May 2007 17:44:46 +0200
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why did I knew that this argument would come? Maybe because it's your
> default reaction to any opposition.
What, providing evidence to the contrary? What more do you want?
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Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 May 2007 17:12:03 +0200
> Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > (My) Experience has also shown that gentoo-x86/portage users like
> > the elog features in portage, so stop with those games, they don't
>
On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:34:39 +0200
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stephen Bennett napsal(a):
> > On Sat, 5 May 2007 17:12:03 +0200
> > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> a g42 news item shouldn't be issued for minor syntax
> >> changes in config files that could just as
Stephen Bennett napsal(a):
> On Sat, 5 May 2007 17:12:03 +0200
> Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> a g42 news item shouldn't be issued for minor syntax
>> changes in config files that could just as well handled completely
>> automatically in postinst/CONFIG_PROTECT.
>
> And these ch
On Sat, 5 May 2007 17:12:03 +0200
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a g42 news item shouldn't be issued for minor syntax
> changes in config files that could just as well handled completely
> automatically in postinst/CONFIG_PROTECT.
And these changes can't be handled that way, since pal
On Sat, 5 May 2007 17:12:03 +0200
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guess you never looked at the various elog modules in portage-2.1 then
> which provide the same (I'd say even more) flexibility how and when
> you want to read such stuff
But they don't do so by default.
> Why does every
On Sat, 5 May 2007 09:37:17 -0400
"Stephen P. Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What experience? So far there have been no news items. The issue
> > about elog messages being one shot things is rather outdated (at
> > least for portage), and post-merge information is the domain of
> > elog (a
On Sat, 5 May 2007 16:40:12 +0200
"Wulf C. Krueger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday, May 5, 2007 04:14:25 PM Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > Currently, there are two news item in the Paludis overlay. Unless
> > > earlier ones were removed, those two seem to be a fairly small
> > > sample to d
On Saturday, May 5, 2007 04:14:25 PM Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > Currently, there are two news item in the Paludis overlay. Unless
> > earlier ones were removed, those two seem to be a fairly small sample
> > to deduce anything from.
> They were.
How many news items did you issue? (It's probably ea
On Sat, 05 May 2007 16:15:33 +0200
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You seriously intend to use elog across lots of ebuilds rather than
> > a single news item?
>
> Yeah, I seriously think package documentation belongs to tarballs and
> gets installed to /usr/share/docs/${PF} - not to gento
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:48:28 +0200
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> OK, I'm afraid that GLEP42 is missing the part that critical news
>> reporting does not replace documentation. You seriously intend to use
>> this feature for such stuff and force everyone to d
On Sat, 5 May 2007 16:05:08 +0200
"Wulf C. Krueger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday, May 5, 2007 03:23:41 PM Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> [Paludis configuration: * -> */*]
> > Experience and user feedback has shown that in situations like this
> > users want an accompanying news item even if t
On Saturday, May 5, 2007 03:23:41 PM Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
[Paludis configuration: * -> */*]
> Experience and user feedback has shown that in situations like this
> users want an accompanying news item even if the application does
> output deprecation warnings.
Currently, there are two news item
On Sat, 5 May 2007 15:51:25 +0200
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, but I'd hardly call _your_ experience with paludis overlay
> users a reliable indicator that g42 news are superior to elog for
> Gentoo at large. Please stop pretending that you're speaking
> for/about the majority o
On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:48:28 +0200
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, I'm afraid that GLEP42 is missing the part that critical news
> reporting does not replace documentation. You seriously intend to use
> this feature for such stuff and force everyone to download this via
> rsync?
You ser
On Sat, 5 May 2007 13:45:47 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 May 2007 10:07:41 +0200
> Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What experience? So far there have been no news items.
>
> Paludis has had working news items for ages, and we've used them in
> the overl
Stephen P. Becker napsal(a):
> For example, a recent news
> item in the paludis overlay informed users on how to properly set
> everything up for userpriv with paludis-0.22, a description that was far
> too detailed for elog, and which I didn't have time to read the very
> minute that I installed t
On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:37:36 +0200
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's not what I've been pointing out at all, you've completely
> snipped the important part about *unintended* use of this feature.
> So, once again - this is not an elog replacement and is not intended
> for trivial stuff
On Sat, 5 May 2007 15:28:21 +0200
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 May 2007 13:46:32 +0100
> Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 5 May 2007 10:30:40 +0200
> > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > And given that the GLEP specifically states that news it
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:15:55 +0200
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> How does it matter exactly whether it's paludis users, gcc users, php
>> users, apache users or whoever else who will use the news item? Let's
>> not misuse news framework for stuff that
>
> E
> What experience? So far there have been no news items. The issue
> about elog messages being one shot things is rather outdated (at least
> for portage), and post-merge information is the domain of elog (as
> stated in the GLEP).
As Ciaran explained below, the paludis overlay has been using them
On Sat, 5 May 2007 13:46:32 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 May 2007 10:30:40 +0200
> Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And given that the GLEP specifically states that news items are not
> > suposed to replace the usual postinst einfo/elog messages I'm
> > t
On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:15:55 +0200
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Only Paludis users will use the news item. To Paludis users, the
> > news item is not a triviality or noise. To everyone else it's
> > irrelevant.
>
> How does it matter exactly whether it's paludis users, gcc users, php
>
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 14:53:47 +0200
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> For what situation? Changing * to */* is a bunch of config files (as
>> far as I've been told, paludis warns about this deprecated syntax
>> anyway)?
>>
>> If we are going to abuse "critical ne
On Sat, 05 May 2007 14:53:47 +0200
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For what situation? Changing * to */* is a bunch of config files (as
> far as I've been told, paludis warns about this deprecated syntax
> anyway)?
>
> If we are going to abuse "critical news reporting" feature for such
> tr
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sat, 5 May 2007 10:30:40 +0200
> Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> And given that the GLEP specifically states that news items are not
>> suposed to replace the usual postinst einfo/elog messages I'm tempted
>> to call this an abuse of the news framework.
>
On Sat, 5 May 2007 13:44:54 +0200
Maurice van der Pot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It looks like it is not clear enough what kind of news should be
> called critical.
It's quite simple. If something is of sufficient interest to users who
would be shown the news item that it is worth them seeing a
On Sat, 5 May 2007 10:30:40 +0200
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And given that the GLEP specifically states that news items are not
> suposed to replace the usual postinst einfo/elog messages I'm tempted
> to call this an abuse of the news framework.
The usual postinst messages are ina
On Sat, 5 May 2007 10:07:41 +0200
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What experience? So far there have been no news items.
Paludis has had working news items for ages, and we've used them in the
overlay.
> The issue about elog messages being one shot things is rather
> outdated (at least
It looks like it is not clear enough what kind of news should be called
critical.
If for instance an upgrade from package foo-3.4 to foo-4.0 will cause
the system to break unless specific steps are followed (mysql/gcc), it's
obvious that it's suitable for a news item.
If an upgrade from an ancie
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 10:49:47PM +0200, Piotr Jaroszy??ski wrote:
> Justification: major config format change.
> As of Paludis 0.24, the use of '*' to match all packages in the Paludis
> configuration files 'use.conf', 'keywords.conf' and 'licenses.conf' is
> deprecated in favour of '*/*'. You s
On Sat, 5 May 2007 00:52:46 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 May 2007 19:48:19 -0400
> Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That seems like a really bad road to go down.
> >
> > Would it not be better to extend elog to alert people at the end of
> > an install as
On Sat, 5 May 2007 00:17:46 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 May 2007 17:38:43 -0500
> Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > otherwise, yeah, elog does the same thing already...
>
> Experience has shown that news items work in delivering this kind of
> inf
On Fri, 4 May 2007 20:01:58 -0400
Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Doesn't help. It's only there once, and it's easy to ignore. Users
> > don't have to explicitly mark it as read, so it's frequently not
> > read. elog is not an adequate solution.
>
> Emm, That would depend upon the viewe
On Friday 04 May 2007 8:01:58 pm Dan Meltzer wrote:
> On Friday 04 May 2007 7:52:46 pm Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Fri, 4 May 2007 19:48:19 -0400
> >
> > Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > That seems like a really bad road to go down.
> > >
> > > Would it not be better to extend elog to
On Friday 04 May 2007 7:52:46 pm Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 4 May 2007 19:48:19 -0400
>
> Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That seems like a really bad road to go down.
> >
> > Would it not be better to extend elog to alert people at the end of
> > an install as well?
>
> Doesn't he
On Fri, 4 May 2007 19:48:19 -0400
Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That seems like a really bad road to go down.
>
> Would it not be better to extend elog to alert people at the end of
> an install as well?
Doesn't help. It's only there once, and it's easy to ignore. Users
don't have to e
On Friday 04 May 2007 6:58:44 pm Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 4 May 2007 18:50:00 -0400
>
> Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How does this fit the following parts of the GLEP?
> >
> > "Preemptive
>
> Preemptiveness is not a requirement for this particular news item. It's
> necessary i
On Sat, 05 May 2007 01:47:07 +0300
Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can there be new messages with emerge --pretend if emerge --sync
> is the only way to get them? Should be saying unread messages and it
> would be clear to me.
A new message is one that hasn't been read.
--
Ciaran M
On Fri, 04 May 2007 17:38:43 -0500
Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right which... seems to me something I would want to know
> *BEFORE* I upgraded...
No no, if you find out before you upgrade you preemptively change your
config files and the old version breaks. If you find out
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> On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 12:13:12AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> Isn't such use case just a replacement for elog? I thought news were
>> supposed to be delivered before upgrading. Also "You should update your
>> configuratio
On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:56:35 +0200
Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Display-If-Installed:
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Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How does this fit the following parts of the GLEP?
>
> "Preemptive
Preemptiveness is not a requirement for this particular news item. It's
necessary in many places but not this one.
> Additionally, what about this is so c
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 01:30:05 +0300
> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So let's say this was a message about package foobar. If it only
>> affects users after they upgrade it would mean that new installs
>> would get t
On Friday 04 May 2007 4:49:47 pm Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thanks to zmedico we now have support for news items on infra-side and heck
> they are ready to use. And we should use them!
>
> Attaching news item for paludis 0.24.
> Justification: major config format change.
How does this f
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti:
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 01:34:37 +0300
> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ah found it in the GLEP:
>> "The package manager filters the news item and, if it is relevant,
>> marks the news item for reading. The package manager should also
>> display a notice informi
On Sat, 05 May 2007 01:34:37 +0300
Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah found it in the GLEP:
> "The package manager filters the news item and, if it is relevant,
> marks the news item for reading. The package manager should also
> display a notice informing the user that there are unread n
On Sat, 05 May 2007 01:30:05 +0300
Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So let's say this was a message about package foobar. If it only
> affects users after they upgrade it would mean that new installs
> would get the news item too, wouldn't it?.
Yep. This situation was discussed when desig
Petteri Räty kirjoitti:
> Alexander Færøy kirjoitti:
>> On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 12:13:12AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>> Isn't such use case just a replacement for elog? I thought news were
>>> supposed to be delivered before upgrading. Also "You should update your
>>> configuration files after
Alexander Færøy kirjoitti:
> On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 12:13:12AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> Isn't such use case just a replacement for elog? I thought news were
>> supposed to be delivered before upgrading. Also "You should update your
>> configuration files after upgrading." sounds like somet
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 12:13:12AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> Isn't such use case just a replacement for elog? I thought news were
> supposed to be delivered before upgrading. Also "You should update your
> configuration files after upgrading." sounds like something one would
> read before upg
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> On Friday 04 of May 2007 23:46:39 Thomas Rösner wrote:
>> You mean "Display-If-Installed:
> No, I want it displayed only after installation of the new version.
>
Isn't such use case just a replacement for elog? I thought
On Friday 04 of May 2007 23:46:39 Thomas Rösner wrote:
> You mean "Display-If-Installed:
Hi,
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
> Hello,
>
> (...)
>
> Display-If-Installed: >=sys-apps/paludis-0.24
You mean "Display-If-Installed:
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