Re: OT: gentoo-kindergarten (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML)

2007-06-13 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/13/07, Thilo Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I want a gentoo-kindergarten list, where useless discussions like this (sub)thread can be directed to. kids, grow up! *cries in his corner* Yes mummy :] -- Kent ruby -e '[1, 2, 4, 7, 0, 9, 5, 8, 3, 10, 11, 6, 12, 13].each{|x| print "enNO

OT: gentoo-kindergarten (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML)

2007-06-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
I want a gentoo-kindergarten list, where useless discussions like this (sub)thread can be directed to. kids, grow up! pgpJFDJFTgIVf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-09 Thread George Prowse
Mike Doty wrote: George Prowse wrote: Kumba wrote: Kumba wrote: So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself and others (i.e., mcummi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-08 Thread Kumba
Mike Doty wrote: George Prowse wrote: Kumba wrote: Kumba wrote: So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself and others (i.e., mcummi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-08 Thread Mike Doty
George Prowse wrote: > Kumba wrote: >> Kumba wrote: >>> >>> So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the >>> flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the >>> IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself >>> and others (i.e., mcu

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-08 Thread George Prowse
Kumba wrote: Kumba wrote: So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself and others (i.e., mcummings) to get back on track and actual

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-08 Thread Kumba
Kumba wrote: So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself and others (i.e., mcummings) to get back on track and actually like, you

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-08 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kumba wrote: > Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: >> We might need some sort of enforcement for that particular purpose. >> While I think that "behavior" proctors are inappropriate, I think that >> people with ability to say "move this thread to gentoo-p

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-08 Thread Luca Barbato
Kumba wrote: > gentoo-politics > gentoo-circuits > gentoo-soap > gentoo-project > gentoo-gossip gentoo-drama - theatrical events every day, no feeling were hurt while filming the show* gentoo-chats - mindless discussions about non issues gentoo-rhetorics - exercise your language skills gentoo-p

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Roman Zimmermann
Kumba wrote: > >> what should we call it?  Vote on this! > > > > If users have votes ... Then I'd vote for gentoo-project. It seems to me that politics covers just a part of all possible non-technical topics. Depends on how you define politics though. Roman pgpUqVXAIRKN3.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Kumba
Philip Webb wrote: 070607 Kumba wrote: what should we call it? Vote on this! If users have votes ... Since I'm pretty much the pikachu-loving nutball that proposed this, I don't see why not. Users are as much a part of Gentoo as the developers are. --Kumba -- Gentoo/MIPS Team Lead "S

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Philip Webb
070607 Kumba wrote: > what should we call it? Vote on this! If users have votes ... > gentoo-politics ... that gets mine: let's keep it quite clear what it is. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Kumba
Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: We might need some sort of enforcement for that particular purpose. While I think that "behavior" proctors are inappropriate, I think that people with ability to say "move this thread to gentoo-politics or else.." for non-technical threads, as well as "stop failin

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > Steev Klimaszewski wrote: >> Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: >>> Marius Mauch wrote: Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an >> honest question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have >> serious doubts about it. It's of no u

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > > Marius Mauch wrote: > >> Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an > honest question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have > serious doubts about it. It's of no use if people have to be told to > move

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:50:02 -0500 > Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> No can do - temporarily banning is a bad thing, its censorship, and we >> can't have that, no sir. > > It's censorship when it's being done one-sidedly in order to skew an > argument base

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Doug Goldstein
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:50:02 -0500 > Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> No can do - temporarily banning is a bad thing, its censorship, and we >> can't have that, no sir. >> > > It's censorship when it's being done one-sidedly in order to skew an > a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:50:02 -0500 Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No can do - temporarily banning is a bad thing, its censorship, and we > can't have that, no sir. It's censorship when it's being done one-sidedly in order to skew an argument based upon the prejudices of those doin

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: >> Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an honest >> question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have serious doubts >> about it. It's of no use if people have t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Philip Webb
070607 Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > people with ability to say "move this to gentoo-politics or else.." > for non-technical threads, as well as "stop failing to use logic > in your technical discussion or else..." with power > to temporarily ban people for non-compliance could be a useful thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Marius Mauch wrote: > Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an honest > question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have serious doubts > about it. It's of no use if people have to be told to move threads from -dev > to that new list. > We might need some sort

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Kumba
Marius Mauch wrote: Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an honest question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have serious doubts about it. It's of no use if people have to be told to move threads from -dev to that new list. Most of what I wrote was tongue

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Kumba
Luca Barbato wrote: I'm ok with it, just I'd like to have it available as gentoo-fortune please. (btw I'd like to see the quotebot back from the old ages!) Oh, I could easily see the quote package for gentoo-politics (or whatever its called) raising much laughter (among other things). And

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Kumba
Christian Parpart wrote: +1 here too possible alternative names: gentoo-soap, gentoo-gossip ( not to be confused with net-im/gossip ) gentoo-soap, lol! "And these are the Flames of our Lives..." --Kumba -- Gentoo/MIPS Team Lead "Such is oft the course of deeds that move the wheels

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:19:55 -0400 Kumba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the flames > burn > bright enough to have earned a star designation from the IAU. Given what's > been > going on lately, and with calls from myself and oth

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Jan Kundrát
Kent Fredric wrote: > possible alternative names: gentoo-soap, gentoo-gossip ( not to be > confused with net-im/gossip ) Please, please, make it gentoo-circuits [1]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_My_Circuits Yours faithfully, -jkt -- cd /local/pub && more beer > /dev/mouth signature.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Christian Parpart
On Thursday 07 June 2007 09:10:41 Kent Fredric wrote: > On 6/7/07, Kumba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyways, thoughts? > > > > --Kumba > > +1 +1 here too > possible alternative names: gentoo-soap, gentoo-gossip ( not to be > confused with net-im/gossip ) gentoo-soap, lol! signature.asc Des

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Luca Barbato
Kumba wrote: > So anyways, I'm all for this list, humour aside. It's blatantly obvious > people need a place to vent at times, and I think that by separating the > politics from the technical discussion, it might help in some way. Yes, > it'll also be the source of many problems too. I can't env

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Vlastimil Babka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kumba wrote: > And maybe a dev who > secretly dabbles in another OSlike Wind...err, Ubuntu! I thought this position has been already filled :) - -- Vlastimil Babka (Caster) Gentoo/Java -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/7/07, Kumba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyways, thoughts? --Kumba +1 possible alternative names: gentoo-soap, gentoo-gossip ( not to be confused with net-im/gossip ) And just for fits and giggles, the occasional person can start a fake flame war just to keep us on our toes as to whats

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-06 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kumba wrote: > > So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the > flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the > IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself and > others (i.e., mcum