Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-09 Thread james
On 07/08/2016 04:50 PM, Alec Warner wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Philip Webb mailto:purs...@ca.inter.net>> wrote: 160708 William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:56:04PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> IMO the criteria should be whether they work or not,

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-09 Thread Philip Webb
160708 Alec Warner wrote: > On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Philip Webb wrote: >> (1) The fact that a pkg has little or no upstream support >> or that it doesn't have an active Gentoo maintainer >> is not a reason for removing it from the regular tree. > So basically what you are advocating for is

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > >> 160708 William Hubbs wrote: >> > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:56:04PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> >> IMO the criteria should be whether they work or not, >> >> not whether upstrea

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > 160708 William Hubbs wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:56:04PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > >> IMO the criteria should be whether they work or not, > >> not whether upstream is more or less active. > >> If they're blockers on other work

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread Philip Webb
160708 William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:56:04PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> IMO the criteria should be whether they work or not, >> not whether upstream is more or less active. >> If they're blockers on other work, by all means cull them. >> However, if the biggest problem wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > > I'm sorry for harping on that topic again, but if we had used grobian's > initial proposal for git migration[0] - one repository per package, and the > portage tree would be an aggregation of those - then we could have such a

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Rich Freeman schrieb: On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: I think the point of a graveyard repository is that discovering and extracting deleted ebuilds from git is more cumbersome than from CVS attic. It would be even better if the graveyard repository preserve

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > I think the point of a graveyard repository is that discovering and > extracting deleted ebuilds from git is more cumbersome than from CVS attic. > > It would be even better if the graveyard repository preserved the commit > his

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Rich Freeman schrieb: You say that there are no bugs in those packages. How do you know? You don't know unless you test it, and no maintainer means nobody is known to test it regularly. The package can be pretty much completely broken and we'll not know unless someone tests it. This sounds lik

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread james
On 07/08/2016 11:51 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 18:33:35 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:11:45 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: I'm starting a new thread so this will be a completely separate discussion. On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:56:04PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Now, there's a significant difference between lastriting unmaintained > packages at treecleaner's leisure and having a clean tree to work on, > and having to figure out how many of the packages blocking some global > change are unmaintained

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread james
On 07/08/2016 10:33 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:11:45 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: I'm starting a new thread so this will be a completely separate discussion. On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:56:04PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:42:14 -0400 Rich Freeman wr

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 18:33:35 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:11:45 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > > I'm starting a new thread so this will be a completely separate > > discussion. > > > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:56:04PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > On Fri, 8 Jul 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:11:45 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > I'm starting a new thread so this will be a completely separate > discussion. > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:56:04PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:42:14 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:30

[gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread William Hubbs
I'm starting a new thread so this will be a completely separate discussion. On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:56:04PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:42:14 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Anthony G. Basile > > wrote: > > > > > > Also there's some de