Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/27/2019 12:12, Matt Turner wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 3:06 AM James Le Cuirot wrote: >> >> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 05:38:48 -0400 >> Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >>> Why do I not like an initramfs, though? Well, for one, it complicates the >>> kernel compiles (and it makes them bigger, someth

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/27/2019 06:06, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 05:38:48 -0400 > Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> Why do I not like an initramfs, though? Well, for one, it complicates the >> kernel compiles (and it makes them bigger, something which is an issue on >> the old SGI systems at times). T

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 16:17:04 + Michael Everitt wrote: > On 27/10/19 16:12, Matt Turner wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 3:06 AM James Le Cuirot wrote: > >> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 05:38:48 -0400 > >> Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> > >>> Why do I not like an initramfs, though? Well, for one, i

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread Michael Everitt
On 27/10/19 16:12, Matt Turner wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 3:06 AM James Le Cuirot wrote: >> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 05:38:48 -0400 >> Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >>> Why do I not like an initramfs, though? Well, for one, it complicates the >>> kernel compiles (and it makes them bigger, something w

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 3:06 AM James Le Cuirot wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 05:38:48 -0400 > Joshua Kinard wrote: > > > Why do I not like an initramfs, though? Well, for one, it complicates the > > kernel compiles (and it makes them bigger, something which is an issue on > > the old SGI syste

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread Benda Xu
Joshua Kinard writes: > Put simply, the kernel's single purpose, as nothing more than a > hyper-complex while loop, is to get the hardware up into a usable state and > then hand off to userland, then sit and service userland's needs as called > upon. The kernel should have all of the subsystems

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 05:38:48 -0400 Joshua Kinard wrote: > Why do I not like an initramfs, though? Well, for one, it complicates the > kernel compiles (and it makes them bigger, something which is an issue on > the old SGI systems at times). Two, it's another layer that I have to > maintain. Th

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/25/2019 14:14, William Hubbs wrote: > Hey all, > > I have been advised to bring this topic back to the list before taking > any action, so here it is. > > First, I need to clarify what I'm *NOT* talking about. > > This discussion has nothing to do with whether or not you have the > split-u

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-25 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 03:16:19PM -0500, Dale wrote: > William Hubbs wrote: > > Hi Dale, > > > > I would like to call your attention to a couple of things in my message. > > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 01:40:10PM -0500, Dale wrote: > >> William Hubbs wrote: > > *snip* > > > >>> I want to hear from

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-25 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > Hi Dale, > > I would like to call your attention to a couple of things in my message. > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 01:40:10PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> William Hubbs wrote: > *snip* > >>> I want to hear from people who have / and /usr on separate partitions >>> and who are not usi

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-25 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Dale, I would like to call your attention to a couple of things in my message. On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 01:40:10PM -0500, Dale wrote: > William Hubbs wrote: *snip* > > I want to hear from people who have / and /usr on separate partitions > > and who are not using an initramfs. > > > > If you

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-25 Thread Jaco Kroon
Hi, On 2019/10/25 20:14, William Hubbs wrote: Hey all, I have been advised to bring this topic back to the list before taking any action, so here it is. First, I need to clarify what I'm *NOT* talking about. This discussion has nothing to do with whether or not you have the split-usr use flag

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-25 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > Hey all, > > I have been advised to bring this topic back to the list before taking > any action, so here it is. > > First, I need to clarify what I'm *NOT* talking about. > > This discussion has nothing to do with whether or not you have the > split-usr use flag turned on; a

[gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-25 Thread William Hubbs
Hey all, I have been advised to bring this topic back to the list before taking any action, so here it is. First, I need to clarify what I'm *NOT* talking about. This discussion has nothing to do with whether or not you have the split-usr use flag turned on; all of us officially have that on bec