Re: [gentoo-dev] seeds, GLEPs, and projects

2006-09-21 Thread Lance Albertson
Grant Goodyear wrote: > To some extent, we're back to determining what the word "official" means > in these cases. My goal in making projects easy to create was to > support innovative ideas. Most innovative ideas don't pan out, however, > so a corollary has to be that just because a project exi

Re: [gentoo-dev] seeds, GLEPs, and projects

2006-09-21 Thread Mike Pagano
On 9/21/06, Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Huge amounts of time, effort and users. How much arch team time was > spent fixing genkernel? How much time was spent fixing the OS X mess? > How many users did we lose as a result of all the QA screwups? Eh, I wanted

Re: [gentoo-dev] seeds, GLEPs, and projects

2006-09-21 Thread Simon Stelling
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Huge amounts of time, effort and users. How much arch team time was > spent fixing genkernel? How much time was spent fixing the OS X mess? > How many users did we lose as a result of all the QA screwups? Eh, I wanted answers, not more questions :P > As much as I hate rel

Re: [gentoo-dev] seeds, GLEPs, and projects

2006-09-21 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:28:46 +0200 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Grant Goodyear wrote: | > If we | > (being Gentoo) say that we're going to do something, and then things | > fall through, it might make us look bad, after all. | | Maybe it's just me being stupid, but what exactly do w

Re: [gentoo-dev] seeds, GLEPs, and projects

2006-09-21 Thread Joshua Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Stelling wrote: > Grant Goodyear wrote: >> If we >> (being Gentoo) say that we're going to do something, and then things >> fall through, it might make us look bad, after all. > > Maybe it's just me being stupid, but what exactly do we have to lo

Re: [gentoo-dev] seeds, GLEPs, and projects

2006-09-21 Thread Simon Stelling
Grant Goodyear wrote: > If we > (being Gentoo) say that we're going to do something, and then things > fall through, it might make us look bad, after all. Maybe it's just me being stupid, but what exactly do we have to loose? (This is a serious question, I'd appreciate serious answers.) -- Kind

[gentoo-dev] seeds, GLEPs, and projects

2006-09-21 Thread Grant Goodyear
For whatever it's worth, I rather like the Gentoo Seeds project, although I'm more interested in nice tools to make the seeds, than in having pre-existing seeds. Ciaranm has argued that the project really should have been GLEPped. Although I wouldn't have opposed such a GLEP, it's not clear to me