Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-13 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:59:35AM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Alexander Berntsen > wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On 11/12/13 21:41, William Hubbs wrote: > >> My thought is to rename our "rc" to "openrc", since that would

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-13 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 11/12/13 21:41, William Hubbs wrote: >> My thought is to rename our "rc" to "openrc", since that would be >> unique. > orc is shorter and more punny (nice excuse for designing an

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-13 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 13/12/13 13:31, Samuli Suominen wrote: > orc is dev-lang/orc, with binaries like orc-bugreport That's fine. There is no binary, orc. > as said, with tab completion, orc-* would just get mixed up with > binaries from dev-lang/orc Tab-completing

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/12/13 17:46, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 11/12/13 21:41, William Hubbs wrote: > > My thought is to rename our "rc" to "openrc", since that would be > > unique. > orc is shorter and more punny (nice excuse for designing an orcish cow > mascot). > orc is dev-lang/orc, with binaries like or

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-12 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/12/13 21:41, William Hubbs wrote: > My thought is to rename our "rc" to "openrc", since that would be > unique. orc is shorter and more punny (nice excuse for designing an orcish cow mascot). On 11/12/13 22:04, William Hubbs wrote:> On Wed, D

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-12 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 09:41:10AM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 11/12/13 22:41, William Hubbs wrote: > > All, > > > > We got a request from Debian to rename the "rc" binary of OpenRC due to > > a naming conflict they have. They have a port of the at&t plan 9 shell, > > which has a binary n

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > Well, given that systemd unit files don't express dependencies ... > Sure they do. They declare wants, after, wantedby, etc. Looking in my /usr/lib/systemd/system it seems like all the units I looked at declared their dependencies. I don'

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 11/12/13 22:41, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > We got a request from Debian to rename the "rc" binary of OpenRC due to > a naming conflict they have. They have a port of the at&t plan 9 shell, > which has a binary named "rc" as well[1]. which we ship as app-shells/rc and rename 'rc' to 'rcsh'

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 12/12/2013 04:41 AM, William Hubbs wrote: >> All, >> >> We got a request from Debian to rename the "rc" binary of OpenRC due to >> a naming conflict they have. They have a port of the at&t plan 9 shell, >> which has a binary named "rc" as

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/12/2013 05:28 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Chris Reffett wrote: >> The idea of running a sed on inittab in an ebuild, no matter what the >> context, terrifies me. Perhaps we can ease this in slowly by renaming rc -> >> openrc and symlinking rc -> openrc and maki

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/12/2013 04:41 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > We got a request from Debian to rename the "rc" binary of OpenRC due to > a naming conflict they have. They have a port of the at&t plan 9 shell, > which has a binary named "rc" as well[1]. > > My thought is to rename our "rc" to "openrc", s

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 09:09:16PM +, Markos Chandras wrote: > If that's the case then I see no reason to go through the migration path > for users :) The symlink thing can be done immediately. > I am wondering, wouldn't Debian be able to rename "rc" to "openrc" in > their openrc package just b

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Chris Reffett wrote: > The idea of running a sed on inittab in an ebuild, no matter what the > context, terrifies me. Perhaps we can ease this in slowly by renaming rc -> > openrc and symlinking rc -> openrc and making a release with that change > concurrent with a

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 09:09:16PM +, Markos Chandras wrote: > If that's the case then I see no reason to go through the migration path > for users :) The symlink thing can be done immediately. Awesome. Great to hear it! > I am wondering, wouldn't Debian be able to rename "rc" to "openrc" in

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Markos Chandras
On 12/11/2013 08:56 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > [I'm not the OpenRC maintainer, I'm only on gentoo-devel because I'm > generally interested, and I saw this, I'm not speaking for zigo or > anything here.] > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 03:47:57PM -0500, Chris Reffett wrote: >>The idea of ru

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:47:49PM +0200, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:41 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > > > All, > > > > We got a request from Debian to rename the "rc" binary of OpenRC due to > > a naming conflict they have. They have a port of the at&t plan 9 shell, > > which

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
[I'm not the OpenRC maintainer, I'm only on gentoo-devel because I'm generally interested, and I saw this, I'm not speaking for zigo or anything here.] On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 03:47:57PM -0500, Chris Reffett wrote: >The idea of running a sed on inittab in an ebuild, no matter what the >

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Markos Chandras
On 12/11/2013 08:47 PM, Chris Reffett wrote: > On 12/11/2013 3:41 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> All, >> >> We got a request from Debian to rename the "rc" binary of OpenRC due to >> a naming conflict they have. They have a port of the at&t plan 9 shell, >> which has a binary named "rc" as well[1]. >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Chris Reffett
On 12/11/2013 3:41 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > We got a request from Debian to rename the "rc" binary of OpenRC due to > a naming conflict they have. They have a port of the at&t plan 9 shell, > which has a binary named "rc" as well[1]. > > My thought is to rename our "rc" to "openrc", sinc

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:41 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > All, > > We got a request from Debian to rename the "rc" binary of OpenRC due to > a naming conflict they have. They have a port of the at&t plan 9 shell, > which has a binary named "rc" as well[1]. > > My thought is to rename our "rc" to

[gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread William Hubbs
All, We got a request from Debian to rename the "rc" binary of OpenRC due to a naming conflict they have. They have a port of the at&t plan 9 shell, which has a binary named "rc" as well[1]. My thought is to rename our "rc" to "openrc", since that would be unique. I know at least one thing that