Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-22 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 21-04-2011 a las 15:52 -0500, William Hubbs escribió: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:03:42PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 21-04-2011 a las 14:30 -0500, William Hubbs escribió: > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:20:32PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > El mié, 20-04-2011 a las 22:02 +0

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-22 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 12:26:36 +0400 Peter Volkov wrote: > В Чтв, 21/04/2011 в 14:30 -0500, William Hubbs пишет: > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:20:32PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > 1. Would need to rebuild some packages when switching between init > > > systems. > > > > I don't think you can ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-22 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 21/04/2011 в 14:30 -0500, William Hubbs пишет: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:20:32PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > 1. Would need to rebuild some packages when switching between init > > systems. > > I don't think you can get away from this, no matter how you approach > it. The other approach

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-21 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:03:42PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El jue, 21-04-2011 a las 14:30 -0500, William Hubbs escribió: > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:20:32PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El mié, 20-04-2011 a las 22:02 +0400, Peter Volkov escribió: > > > > В Срд, 20/04/2011 в 12:24 -0500, W

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 21-04-2011 a las 14:30 -0500, William Hubbs escribió: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:20:32PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El mié, 20-04-2011 a las 22:02 +0400, Peter Volkov escribió: > > > В Срд, 20/04/2011 в 12:24 -0500, William Hubbs пишет: > > > > The author of the bug feels that the way

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-21 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:20:32PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mié, 20-04-2011 a las 22:02 +0400, Peter Volkov escribió: > > В Срд, 20/04/2011 в 12:24 -0500, William Hubbs пишет: > > > The author of the bug feels that the way to fix this is for us to put a > > > check in openrc that makes it ref

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-21 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:34:59PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 04:31:46AM +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > How should the udev rules be changed to match /any/ init system? > > For an example of the problem, take a look on your system at > /lib/udev/rules.d/90-network.rule

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-20 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 04:31:46AM +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:02:41 +0400 > Peter Volkov wrote: > > > В Срд, 20/04/2011 в 12:24 -0500, William Hubbs пишет: > > > The author of the bug feels that the way to fix this is for us to > > > put a check in openrc that makes it

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:02:41 +0400 Peter Volkov wrote: > В Срд, 20/04/2011 в 12:24 -0500, William Hubbs пишет: > > The author of the bug feels that the way to fix this is for us to > > put a check in openrc that makes it refuse to run services if it > > was not used in the boot process. Why refu

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 20-04-2011 13:22:53 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:02:41PM +0400, Peter Volkov wrote: > > В Срд, 20/04/2011 в 12:24 -0500, William Hubbs пишет: > > > The author of the bug feels that the way to fix this is for us to put a > > > check in openrc that makes it refuse to ru

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-20 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 13:22:53 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:02:41PM +0400, Peter Volkov wrote: > > В Срд, 20/04/2011 в 12:24 -0500, William Hubbs пишет: > > > The author of the bug feels that the way to fix this is for us to > > > put a check in openrc that makes it refus

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-20 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:02:41PM +0400, Peter Volkov wrote: > В Срд, 20/04/2011 в 12:24 -0500, William Hubbs пишет: > > The author of the bug feels that the way to fix this is for us to put a > > check in openrc that makes it refuse to run services if it was not used > > in the boot process. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 20-04-2011 a las 22:02 +0400, Peter Volkov escribió: > В Срд, 20/04/2011 в 12:24 -0500, William Hubbs пишет: > > The author of the bug feels that the way to fix this is for us to put a > > check in openrc that makes it refuse to run services if it was not used > > in the boot process. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-20 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 20/04/2011 в 12:24 -0500, William Hubbs пишет: > The author of the bug feels that the way to fix this is for us to put a > check in openrc that makes it refuse to run services if it was not used > in the boot process. This is good idea to have in any case since I remember my system went cra

[gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

2011-04-20 Thread William Hubbs
All, This bug [1] brings up an issue that I would like thoughts about. sys-fs/udev and net-wireless/bluez, among other packages, install udev rules which assume that you are using openrc. On systems where openrc is not used in the boot process, this causes issues because openrc services are run