Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 08:06:48PM +0100, Felix Kuperjans wrote: > Mike Gilbert: > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans > > wrote: > >> Samuli Suominen wrote: > >>> please review this news item, seems we need one after all > >> Hello Samuli, > >> > >> /dev/root is no longer available

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 25/01/2013 15:23, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > Even so, I could downgrade and revdep-rebuild after that, and it > should Just Work, right? Yes and no — you're safer if you get rid of the .so.1 first then revdep-rebuild (if you're using preserved-libs). I know there should be support for ldconfig NO

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-25 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > Depends on whether or not you rebuilt the rdeps -- udev-197 provides > libudev.so.1 while udev-171 provides libudev.so.0 , so there's > breakage on stuffs like lvm2 and other ebuilds that link to libudev Even so, I could downgrade and rev

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-25 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 25/01/13 04:19 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen > wrote: >>> > Also, after installing udev-197, are there any negative > consequences to just downgrading to -171 again? > Depends on whether or not y

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-25 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > I could see making that the default if there is no .config file > present and a new one is being created, and perhaps upstream would > support that since udev is popular. However, make oldconfig is > usually used when you have a .config file

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:19 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> please review this news item, seems we need one after all > > Here's a crazy idea: can we patch our kernel to let "make oldconfig" > default CONFIG_DEVTMPFS to true? Or better yet,

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-25 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > please review this news item, seems we need one after all Here's a crazy idea: can we patch our kernel to let "make oldconfig" default CONFIG_DEVTMPFS to true? Or better yet, request that this is changed upstream? Also, after installing u

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 24/01/2013 20:19, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > Yep, this is a HP DL380 G6, and lspci says: > 04:00.0 RAID bus controller: Hewlett-Packard Company Smart Array G6 > controllers (rev 01) Hrm just for reference, I've got a number of G6s and they all work fine with the old cciss — although they d

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-24 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On 01/24/13 16:49, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/24/13 05:02, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: >> >> I've recently upgraded some server from kernel-2.6.28 to kernel-3.5.7 and >> encountered that the root-device was renamed from /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 to >> /dev/sda1 due to some kernel driver change (took

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/24/13 05:02, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > > I've recently upgraded some server from kernel-2.6.28 to kernel-3.5.7 and > encountered that the root-device was renamed from /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 to > /dev/sda1 due to some kernel driver change (took me a while to find out). > I'm not using genkern

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-24 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 23/01/13 05:21 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 23:45 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: >> On 23/01/13 23:21, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen >>> escribió: please review this news i

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > > The only way I've found to keep the system bootable with both kernels > (for the upgrade process until the new kernel config was good enough) > was to replace /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 by /dev/root in /etc/fstab. > > How would this be done

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-24 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On 01/23/13 19:29, Felix Kuperjans wrote: > Samuli Suominen wrote: >> please review this news item, seems we need one after all > > /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put > this in their /etc/fstab might end up with an unbootable system. > > I suggest including

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/01/13 21:06, Felix Kuperjans wrote: Mike Gilbert: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Hello Samuli, /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put this in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Francesco Riosa
2013/1/23 Pacho Ramos > El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 23:45 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: > > On 23/01/13 23:21, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: > > >> please review this news item, seems we need one after all > > > > > > Why don't you drop "

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 23:45 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: > On 23/01/13 23:21, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: > >> please review this news item, seems we need one after all > > > > Why don't you drop "~" from: > > CONFIG_CHECK="

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Christopher Head
Are you sure? I have CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT disabled, latest stable udev (197-r3) and openrc (0.11.8), and no /dev line in my fstab, yet my /dev is still a devtmpfs with a proper set of device nodes. Chris On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:03:15 +0100 Michael Weber wrote: > Hi, > > On 01/23/2013 04:04 PM,

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/01/13 23:21, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Why don't you drop "~" from: CONFIG_CHECK="~DEVTMPFS" to ensure people really changes it in their kernel and prevent breakag

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: > please review this news item, seems we need one after all Why don't you drop "~" from: CONFIG_CHECK="~DEVTMPFS" to ensure people really changes it in their kernel and prevent breakage? signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > Ah, good to know. I'm used to dealing with my little homegrown > initramfs, where I parse root from the kernel command line in /init. > genkernel does the same thing. Yeah, dracut generally "does the right thing" but that generally assumes

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Felix Kuperjans
Mike Gilbert: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans > wrote: >> Samuli Suominen wrote: >>> please review this news item, seems we need one after all >> Hello Samuli, >> >> /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put >> this in their /etc/fstab might end up

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> fstab is not consulted for mounting the root filesystem, so it doesn't >> really matter what you have in there. Either the kernel mounts it >> based on the kernel command line, or your i

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > fstab is not consulted for mounting the root filesystem, so it doesn't > really matter what you have in there. Either the kernel mounts it > based on the kernel command line, or your initramfs mounts it based on > whatever your /init programs

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans wrote: > Samuli Suominen wrote: >> please review this news item, seems we need one after all > > Hello Samuli, > > /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put > this in their /etc/fstab might end up with an unbootable sy

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Felix Kuperjans
Samuli Suominen wrote: > please review this news item, seems we need one after all Hello Samuli, /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put this in their /etc/fstab might end up with an unbootable system. I suggest including in the news item, that /dev/root must be

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Weber
Hi, On 01/23/2013 04:04 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > System seems to work fine, so I'm not sure how essential that line is. > The fact that I'm using an initramfs might also have an effect. I'd strongly suggest using CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y. and stop worring about udev/openrc. udev/openrc stopped

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 23/01/2013 16:04, Rich Freeman wrote: > System seems to work fine, so I'm not sure how essential that line is. > The fact that I'm using an initramfs might also have an effect. AFAICT if you do NOT have a /dev entry you're the best off because the init script will mount it for you. I think th

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > None are involved. The second column would read /dev if it was involved. The news item doesn't mention what to do if there is no line to mount /dev. I don't see one in my fstab, and I simply followed the handbook (as it was written ~

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/01/13 15:44, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: not for everyone, not everyone upgrades this often, and it's usually the servers that get updated last Agreed, but best to get this out ASAP. Only question - display-if-installed is set to <.

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 23/01/2013 15:02, Philip Webb wrote: >> > - The need of CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y in the kernel; need to verify the fstype >> > for >> > possible /dev line in /etc/fstab is devtmpfs (and not, for example, >> > tmpfs) > ... > > I have 2 such lines : > > tmpfs /tmp

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Philip Webb
130123 Samuli Suominen wrote: > please review this news item, seems we need one after all ... > - The need of CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y in the kernel; need to verify the fstype for > possible /dev line in /etc/fstab is devtmpfs (and not, for example, tmpfs) ... I have 2 such lines : tmpfs

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > not for everyone, not everyone upgrades this often, and it's usually the > servers that get updated last Agreed, but best to get this out ASAP. Only question - display-if-installed is set to <. Would it make sense to make it <198 ins

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/01/13 15:34, Markos Chandras wrote: On 23 January 2013 13:32, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all +1, this would have been useful. Looks ok but as the news item says, it's a bit too

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On 23 January 2013 13:32, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> please review this news item, seems we need one after all > > +1, this would have been useful. > Looks ok but as the news item says, it's a bit too late ... -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > please review this news item, seems we need one after all +1, this would have been useful.

[gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
please review this news item, seems we need one after all Title: Upgrading udev from 171 (or older) to 197 Author: Samuli Suominen Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2013-01-23 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: http://bugs.gentoo.org/453494 [2] http://www.freedesktop.org/wik