Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml upstream docs as reference to scientific publications/papers

2023-09-17 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023, Florian Schmaus wrote: > > > > sounds perfectly fine. Don't use an attribute if you can put the information in the (otherwise empty) element. Especially, when other elements like already do it that way. > It would require (minor) adjustments to the schema and DT

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml upstream docs as reference to scientific publications/papers

2023-09-17 Thread Alexander Neuwirth
On 9/17/23 20:28, Florian Schmaus wrote:   sounds perfectly fine. Ideally I'd not limit it to only doi but also arxiv, zenodo, inspirehep. They can all be referenced by https://... . I agree a specific type is kind of unnecessary. However, the same paper can be referenced by all of them.

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml upstream docs as reference to scientific publications/papers

2023-09-17 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 17/09/2023 14.18, Alexander Neuwirth wrote: Thanks. Instead of using the lang entry I can imagine these other approaches: 2. Adding something specific to GLEP 68, like `type="doi"> https...`. However that seems like a bit too much work for adding something that only a small subset of users

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml upstream docs as reference to scientific publications/papers

2023-09-17 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023, Alexander Neuwirth wrote: > Thanks. Instead of using the lang entry I can imagine these other > approaches: > 1. doi/arxiv/... links could also easily be plugged in custom upstream > remote ids, but that also feels a bit wrong since all other [upstream > remote > ids](h

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml upstream docs as reference to scientific publications/papers

2023-09-17 Thread Alexander Neuwirth
Thanks. Instead of using the lang entry I can imagine these other approaches: 1. doi/arxiv/... links could also easily be plugged in custom upstream remote ids, but that also feels a bit wrong since all other [upstream remote ids](https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/Upstrea

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml upstream docs as reference to scientific publications/papers

2023-09-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2023, Alexander Neuwirth wrote: > I am looking for a way to link scientific publications to > ebuilds/packages. The easiest, but hacky way right now is to use the > |https://doi.org/...|. Integration with > |epkginfo|/|equery meta| works nicely out of the box. However, > curr

[gentoo-dev] metadata.xml upstream docs as reference to scientific publications/papers

2023-09-15 Thread Alexander Neuwirth
Dear Larry, I am looking for a way to link scientific publications to ebuilds/packages. The easiest, but hacky way right now is to use the |https://doi.org/...|. Integration with |epkginfo|/|equery meta| works nicely out of the box. However, currently |pkgcheck| and/or the XML format complain

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml GLEP for review

2016-03-19 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 20:37:30 +0100 Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Therefore, I've been slowly writing a proper GLEP that would describe > > all of metadata.xml in detail. Here's the current draft for review: > > Sounds like a good idea! > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml GLEP for review

2016-03-19 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 20:37:30 +0100 Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Therefore, I've been slowly writing a proper GLEP that would describe > > all of metadata.xml in detail. Here's the current draft for review: > > Sounds like a good idea! > >

[gentoo-dev] metadata.xml GLEP for review

2016-03-19 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, all. Long story short: while working on various metadata.xml-related aspects, it bite us pretty hard that we lack proper spec for metadata.xml file. What we have is pretty much the DTD, some partial GLEPs (that sometimes provide incorrect info) and random bugs. ml posts... Therefore, I've

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml GLEP for review

2016-03-19 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Therefore, I've been slowly writing a proper GLEP that would describe > all of metadata.xml in detail. Here's the current draft for review: Sounds like a good idea! > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:MGorny/GLEP:68 I reviewed your spec bas

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml GLEP for review

2016-03-18 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 20:42:59 +0100 Johannes Huber wrote: > Am Mittwoch 16 März 2016, 19:43:21 schrieb Michał Górny: > > Hello, all. > > > > Long story short: while working on various metadata.xml-related > > aspects, it bite us pretty hard that we lack proper spec for > > metadata.xml file. What

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml GLEP for review

2016-03-18 Thread Johannes Huber
Am Mittwoch 16 März 2016, 19:43:21 schrieb Michał Górny: > Hello, all. > > Long story short: while working on various metadata.xml-related > aspects, it bite us pretty hard that we lack proper spec for > metadata.xml file. What we have is pretty much the DTD, some partial > GLEPs (that sometimes p

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-20 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: > How about "contact" instead of team. > there is no meaning to a contact besides being CC'ed on bugs. Please simply call it cc then? :) //Peter

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 16:23:57 +0100 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:59:26 +0100 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > As for the exact details, I've pretty much decided to go for > > > featurism here, IOW making everyone happy. It als

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-12 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On 2014-12-10 10:41, Sergey Popov wrote: > 09.12.2014 14:59, Ulrich Mueller пишет: > > "proxy-maintainer" is very confusing because you won't put the proxy > > maintainer there, but the user who is being proxied. Please rename > > to something like "proxied" (assuming that this exists as a word in

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2014-12-09, o godz. 12:59:26 > Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): > >> >> As the previously stated goal was to get rid of herds, I don't >> understand why you want to reintroduce them as a value of the >> type attribute. The existing herd elemen

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> I thought we were generally agreed we wanted to get rid of herds. >> The goal wasn't to rename them, but to get rid of them. > >> We could have email aliases for bugs so that people can sign

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-10 Thread Sergey Popov
09.12.2014 14:59, Ulrich Mueller пишет: > "proxy-maintainer" is very confusing because you won't put the proxy > maintainer there, but the user who is being proxied. Please rename > to something like "proxied" (assuming that this exists as a word in > English) or "by-proxy". +1 for that. Proxy ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-10 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-12-09, o godz. 00:46:28 Michał Górny napisał(a): > So considering the previous thread, the Council and QA discussions, I > have prepared a new version of the metadata.xml update. To hopefully > make everyone happy, I come with this three-step process: And the Council meeting brought a

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-10 Thread Luca Barbato
On 09/12/14 17:34, Michał Górny wrote: I'm all for keeping it simple. However, backwards compatibility makes it hard to keep things simple. I'd love to do, say, metadata.yml supporting stuff like: - maintainer: f...@gentoo.org, b...@gentoo.org - maintainer: - name: Foo Bar email: f...@

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-10 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Rich Freeman wrote: > I thought we were generally agreed we wanted to get rid of herds. > The goal wasn't to rename them, but to get rid of them. > We could have email aliases for bugs so that people can sign up for > notifications, but they would NOT be considered maint

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-09 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-12-09, o godz. 10:15:09 Michał Górny napisał(a): > Dnia 2014-12-09, o godz. 00:46:28 > Michał Górny napisał(a): > > > Hello, all. > > > > So considering the previous thread, the Council and QA discussions, I > > have prepared a new version of the metadata.xml update. To hopefully > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-09 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-12-09, o godz. 18:59:22 Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): > > On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Michał Górny wrote: > > > That is *precisely the goal* of this. We scratch and > > , and just use well-supported tag. type="" > > is entirely optional, unobtrusive and backwards-compatible with > > existin

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-09 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Michał Górny wrote: > That is *precisely the goal* of this. We scratch and > , and just use well-supported tag. type="" > is entirely optional, unobtrusive and backwards-compatible with > existing apps. And yes, with just tag the rule in bug > assignment is always to t

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-09 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-12-09, o godz. 17:17:35 "Andreas K. Huettel" napisał(a): > > > > As far as I know the typical way to edit metadata.xml files for all of us > > > is still by hand in a text editor, and I prefer a lot typing > > > > > > kde > > > > > > over > > > > > > kde > > > > > > k...@gentoo.

Re: Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > As far as I know the typical way to edit metadata.xml files for all of us > > is still by hand in a text editor, and I prefer a lot typing > > > > kde > > > > over > > > > kde > > > k...@gentoo.org > Lovely KDE herd > > > to be more precise. Ugh. Even more ugly stuff from the depar

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-09 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-12-09, o godz. 12:59:26 Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): > > On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Michał Górny wrote: > > > As for the exact details, I've pretty much decided to go for > > featurism here, IOW making everyone happy. It also proves how absurd > > typing maintainers is but if you really fee

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-09 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-12-09, o godz. 16:49:24 "Andreas K. Huettel" napisał(a): > Am Dienstag 09 Dezember 2014, 00:46:28 schrieb Michał Górny: > > 2. Convert to , > > Could any please explain to me why this additional > xmlfication is of any ? > > As far as I know the typical way to edit metadata.xml fil

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag 09 Dezember 2014, 00:46:28 schrieb Michał Górny: > 2. Convert to , Could any please explain to me why this additional xmlfication is of any ? As far as I know the typical way to edit metadata.xml files for all of us is still by hand in a text editor, and I prefer a lot typing kde

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-09 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:59:26 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Michał Górny wrote: > > > As for the exact details, I've pretty much decided to go for > > featurism here, IOW making everyone happy. It also proves how absurd > > typing maintainers is but if you really feel lik

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-09 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Michał Górny wrote: > As for the exact details, I've pretty much decided to go for > featurism here, IOW making everyone happy. It also proves how absurd > typing maintainers is but if you really feel like having it, sure. > The default is 'developer', tags would be conv

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-09 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-12-09, o godz. 00:46:28 Michał Górny napisał(a): > Hello, all. > > So considering the previous thread, the Council and QA discussions, I > have prepared a new version of the metadata.xml update. To hopefully > make everyone happy, I come with this three-step process: > > 1. Add type="

[gentoo-dev] metadata.xml un-ization, v2

2014-12-08 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, all. So considering the previous thread, the Council and QA discussions, I have prepared a new version of the metadata.xml update. To hopefully make everyone happy, I come with this three-step process: 1. Add type="" attribute to tag (see attached patch), 2. Convert to , 3. Eventually

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml:

2010-03-01 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01-03-2010 06:39, Markos Chandras wrote: > On Friday 26 February 2010 18:40:47 Alec Warner wrote: >> You mistake the intent I think. We deploy automation because humans >> fail; even when they have the best intentions. We make typos, copy >> and p

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml:

2010-02-28 Thread Markos Chandras
On Friday 26 February 2010 18:40:47 Alec Warner wrote: > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > > Stop. > > > > Is introduction of such a high level of bureaucracy really a good idea? > > > > In my eyes it could backfire and make matters worse as people either > > - start

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml:

2010-02-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Stop. > > Is introduction of such a high level of bureaucracy really a good idea? > > In my eyes it could backfire and make matters worse as people either > - start ignoring it due to high noise > - reduce people's activity below set per

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml:

2010-02-25 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Stop. Is introduction of such a high level of bureaucracy really a good idea? In my eyes it could backfire and make matters worse as people either - start ignoring it due to high noise - reduce people's activity below set permissions To summarize presented proposal has a few points that may not

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml:

2010-02-25 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 24-02-2010 23:41:26 +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Proposed types: > --- > - version-bump > - trivial-version-bump > - trivial-fixes > - fixes > - enhancements > - qa-fixes > - trivial-qa-fixes Isn't the QA team by its definition allowed to fix QA issues? If so, I don't see a poi

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml:

2010-02-25 Thread Vlastimil Babka
On 02/25/2010 02:41 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On Thursday 25 February 2010 08:22:17 Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Robin H Johnson wrote: Metadata.xml should allow use of a element. Within the element, package maintainers should be able to describe how non-maintainer changes to th

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml:

2010-02-25 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Markos Chandras wrote: >> Could we allow this element in the category metadata files, too? >> Its value there would be the default for the category, with the >> possibility to override it for individual packages. > How are you so sure that a general "rule" can apply to

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml:

2010-02-25 Thread Markos Chandras
On Thursday 25 February 2010 08:22:17 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Robin H Johnson wrote: > > Metadata.xml should allow use of a element. Within > > the element, package maintainers should be able to describe how > > non-maintainer changes to the package are handled. > > Cou

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml:

2010-02-24 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Robin H Johnson wrote: > Metadata.xml should allow use of a element. Within > the element, package maintainers should be able to describe how > non-maintainer changes to the package are handled. Could we allow this element in the category metadata files, too? Its value

[gentoo-dev] metadata.xml:

2010-02-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
I'm forking this thread from -core, so we can have some useful discussion about the idea, and then somebody can take it to the gentoo-dev list. This needs a lot more polishing still, and I'm not happy with some of the semantics (esp. "policy" is too harsh a word for what we are trying to convey).

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions

2008-08-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:50:01 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If people wish to take specific categories, please let this thread > know. I'm working on net-analyzer. Regards, JeR

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions

2008-07-30 Thread Doug Goldstein
As a follow up to everyone. If you complete a category, please let it be known in the correct place in use.local.desc. We're at 37 of 131 categories complete, which pegs us at just over 28%

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions

2008-07-29 Thread Jim Ramsay
Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If people wish to take specific categories, please let this thread > know. I just did the rox-base and rox-extra categories. -- Jim Ramsay Gentoo Developer (rox/fluxbox/gkrellm) signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions

2008-07-28 Thread Doug Goldstein
Marius Mauch wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:50:01 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please make sure you commit any changes to use.local.desc to metadata.xml otherwise you risk the chance of having your changes lost. I'm currently in the process of converting use.local.desc to

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions

2008-07-28 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:50:01 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please make sure you commit any changes to use.local.desc to > metadata.xml otherwise you risk the chance of having your changes > lost. I'm currently in the process of converting use.local.desc to > metadata.xml. Aft

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions

2008-07-28 Thread Panagiotis Christopoulos
On 19:13 Mon 28 Jul , Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Doug Goldstein wrote: > > > If people wish to take specific categories, please let this thread know. > > > Ford_Prefect is taking gnome-base > > I can take app-emacs and (the rest of) app-editors. > I take dev-scheme a

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions

2008-07-28 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Doug Goldstein wrote: > If people wish to take specific categories, please let this thread know. > Ford_Prefect is taking gnome-base I can take app-emacs and (the rest of) app-editors. Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions

2008-07-28 Thread Arun Raghavan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Doug Goldstein wrote: [...] > Ford_Prefect is taking gnome-base And gnome-extra. Cheers, Arun -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiN/FIACgkQ+Vqt1inD4uyqkACghaEJjvUKUeNS1EFHUpoWih9M fW8AoIsW8a174NLcHsF/TvwkSl

[gentoo-dev] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions

2008-07-28 Thread Doug Goldstein
Please make sure you commit any changes to use.local.desc to metadata.xml otherwise you risk the chance of having your changes lost. I'm currently in the process of converting use.local.desc to metadata.xml. After a category is converted, it will be auto-generated EXCLUSIVELY from metadata.xml.