Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-08-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 24 August 2007, Roy Marples wrote: > case "$(declare -p "$1" 2>/dev/null)" in /me stabs excessive quoting -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-08-24 Thread Roy Marples
On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 00:33 +0200, Natanael Copa wrote: > I mentioned to the vserver list that i was interested to convert the > scripts to POSIX. First he said that he was not against it until he > realized he could no longer use arrays. > > http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200708/0025

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-08-23 Thread Natanael Copa
On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 14:17 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 13:33 +0100, Ed W wrote: > > > Regarding init scripts. > > > Init scripts should now be strictly bourne or POSIX shell. ie, no > > > bashisms. bash init scripts will work, but ONLY if /bin/sh is bash. > > > Shells as /bin

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-08-23 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 13:33 +0100, Ed W wrote: > > Regarding init scripts. > > Init scripts should now be strictly bourne or POSIX shell. ie, no > > bashisms. bash init scripts will work, but ONLY if /bin/sh is bash. > > Shells as /bin/sh that I've tested and found to be working are > > bash > > da

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-08-23 Thread Ed W
Regarding init scripts. Init scripts should now be strictly bourne or POSIX shell. ie, no bashisms. bash init scripts will work, but ONLY if /bin/sh is bash. Shells as /bin/sh that I've tested and found to be working are bash dash busybox zsh FreeBSD sh Also, as there's no bashisms, that also m

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-08-04 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 21:31 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > Just an issue I thought a long while ago... > What about adding USE flags for all optional networking components... > So that they installed without manually merging them one by one? Too many use flags - simply install the package. In the fu

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-24 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On 7/21/07, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is just a heads up for getting baselayout-2 stable. Next week I plan to put baselayout-2.0.0_rc1 into the tree without any keywords and it will be removed from package.mask (keeping the current alphas masked though). Arch teams will then be

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-24 Thread José Luis Rivero (yoswink)
Roy Marples escribió: On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 13:30 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: We'll definitely want the same version stable across the board. I'll be sure to work with Roy and you to ensure we come to an agreement on what to use and that we're all on the same page. Fair enough. Should I o

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 22:24 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 13:30 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > We'll definitely want the same version stable across the board. I'll be > > sure to work with Roy and you to ensure we come to an agreement on what > > to use and that we're all o

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 23 July 2007, Roy Marples wrote: > On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 13:30 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > We'll definitely want the same version stable across the board. I'll be > > sure to work with Roy and you to ensure we come to an agreement on what > > to use and that we're all on the same

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-23 Thread Roy Marples
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 13:30 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > We'll definitely want the same version stable across the board. I'll be > sure to work with Roy and you to ensure we come to an agreement on what > to use and that we're all on the same page. Fair enough. Should I open a bug (when the

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 17:25 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: > >> 5) Do you have a rough estimate (month, 3 weeks, 5 weeks, what?) on when > >> the first arches might be stabilizing 2.x? > > > > No. > > If the RC's prove stable and no serious regressions are reported for a > > month then we'll probably

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 11:48 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: > 4) What baselayout will be used in the next release? (Maybe that's more > of a releng question.) Whichever is stable around September(ish) time frame will be what we use, unless it is requested that we use something different. -- Chris Gia

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-23 Thread Michiel de Bruijne
On Saturday 21 July 2007 16:36:03 Roy Marples wrote: > This is just a heads up for getting baselayout-2 stable. Next week I > plan to put baselayout-2.0.0_rc1 into the tree without any keywords and > it will be removed from package.mask (keeping the current alphas masked > though). Arch teams w

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-22 Thread Doug Goldstein
Roy Marples wrote: On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 12:45 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: Roy Marples wrote: I don't actually know how to set those up or what the migration path would be. Maybe devzero and strerror could document this as I understand they do this. I manage systems with a single RAID 0 stripe (

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Roy Marples wrote: 4) What baselayout will be used in the next release? (Maybe that's more of a releng question.) baselayout team just makes baselayout releases. If you mean the LiveCD then ask releng. It'll be whatever version of baselayout is stable at the time we take the initial release

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 17:25 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: >> Archiving the handbook isn't possible. > > Why? Unless I'm missing something, it should be fairly trivial. It ain't. It's an old issue. Current networked (requires a net connection to install) handbooks go to /doc/en/

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 17:25 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: > Archiving the handbook isn't possible. Why? Unless I'm missing something, it should be fairly trivial. > What'd really be nice is if it goes stable for all arches (or at least > all of the ones that matter, subjectively) either in time or a

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 11:48 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: >> (GDP): you give us the info, we'll document it for you. Or I will at least. > > Well, the changes are as outlined in my first email. > The user changes are mainly a few variables in the /etc/conf.d/* files > that basela

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Vlastimil Babka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 17:22 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> indeed, that'd be sleeky and sexy ... go file a bug ;) > > Let bug #186156 [1] be henceforth known as the sleeky and sexy bug! > > [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cg

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 17:22 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > indeed, that'd be sleeky and sexy ... go file a bug ;) Let bug #186156 [1] be henceforth known as the sleeky and sexy bug! [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186156 Thanks Roy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Rémi Cardona
Denis Dupeyron a écrit : About the nscd issue we discussed on irc on friday (i.e. daemon not playing nice with parallel startup), your patch worked. It stayed on my work laptop, though, so I can't file a bug right now. But I'll do so monday morning. I'll add mine about the dhcdbd patch you gave

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 21 July 2007, Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 21:28 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 22:22 +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > > Is there a common bug to report snags to? I've hit one: > > > /etc/init.d/net.eth0 used to be a symlink to net.lo. After > > > in

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 21:28 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 22:22 +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > Is there a common bug to report snags to? I've hit one: > > /etc/init.d/net.eth0 used to be a symlink to net.lo. After > > installing, it was gone (I figure it went with baselayout

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 22:22 +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > Is there a common bug to report snags to? I've hit one: > /etc/init.d/net.eth0 used to be a symlink to net.lo. After > installing, it was gone (I figure it went with baselayout-1). > Luckily, I have direct console access, otherwise the ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! [... baselayout-2 is on the horizon ...] Is there a common bug to report snags to? I've hit one: /etc/init.d/net.eth0 used to be a symlink to net.lo. After installing, it was gone (I figure it went with baselayout-1). Luckily, I have direct console access, otherwise the machine would have be

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 15:28 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > i really think this bash vs POSIX issue is getting way more emphasis than it > should. i'd make the claim the majority of people out there dont even know > about /bin/sh, bash, dash, and friends, so most people out there will > have /bi

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 21 July 2007, Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 11:48 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: > >From our perspective, /etc/conf.d/* is quite well documented, so GDP > > could easily diff the files to see what has changed. > > > Of equal concern to me, however are a few issues: > > > > 1) H

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 11:48 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: > (GDP): you give us the info, we'll document it for you. Or I will at least. Well, the changes are as outlined in my first email. The user changes are mainly a few variables in the /etc/conf.d/* files that baselayout ships. For example a few

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 12:15 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: >> Roy Marples wrote: >>> This is just a heads up for getting baselayout-2 stable. Next week I >>> plan to put baselayout-2.0.0_rc1 into the tree without any keywords and >>> it will be removed from package.mask (keeping th

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 7/21/07, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now there are, as usual, some daemons and init scripts that probably won't work. For those that don't, I have either fixed or there's patches in our bugzilla. Here's a rough summary. About the nscd issue we discussed on irc on friday (i.e. daem

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Roy Marples kirjoitti: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 12:45 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: >> Roy Marples wrote: >>> I don't actually know how to set those up or what the migration path >>> would be. Maybe devzero and strerror could document this as I understand >>> they do this. >> I manage systems with a si

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 12:45 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: > Roy Marples wrote: > > I don't actually know how to set those up or what the migration path > > would be. Maybe devzero and strerror could document this as I understand > > they do this. > > I manage systems with a single RAID 0 stripe (not

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Daniel Drake
Roy Marples wrote: I don't actually know how to set those up or what the migration path would be. Maybe devzero and strerror could document this as I understand they do this. I manage systems with a single RAID 0 stripe (not dmraid) managed by device-mapper. When upgrading baselayout, we also

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 12:15 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: > Roy Marples wrote: > > This is just a heads up for getting baselayout-2 stable. Next week I > > plan to put baselayout-2.0.0_rc1 into the tree without any keywords and > > it will be removed from package.mask (keeping the current alphas maske

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Daniel Drake
Roy Marples wrote: This is just a heads up for getting baselayout-2 stable. Next week I plan to put baselayout-2.0.0_rc1 into the tree without any keywords and it will be removed from package.mask (keeping the current alphas masked though). Arch teams will then be pinged on a bug to keyword basel

[gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Roy Marples
This is just a heads up for getting baselayout-2 stable. Next week I plan to put baselayout-2.0.0_rc1 into the tree without any keywords and it will be removed from package.mask (keeping the current alphas masked though). Arch teams will then be pinged on a bug to keyword baselayout-2. Now there a