Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-09 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 08:10:32PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > Uh, does emerge-webrsync have some kind of automagical detection of > the fact that you're building a chroot? I would think that it would > sync /usr/portage, and not /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage. Perhaps you > should move that down into

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > Second, the Portage tree snapshots are now installed through emerge-webrsync > (which means the entire section on downloading the tarballs, checking > integrity, extracting is now a single paragraph). Uh, does emerge-webrsync have some kind

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-08 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:44:31AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: > On 11/30/2012 06:46 AM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > > On Nov 29, 2012 10:24 AM, "Markos Chandras" wrote: > > > > We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure if we > > > > told people to use emerge-webrsync to fetch the i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-01 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:35:07AM -0800, Zac Medico wrote: > > However, I'm not aware of gnu tar's incremental archive. If it's much > > faster than the above, then it should probably replace > > emerge-delta-webrsync. > If it has benefits over the current diffball approach used by > emerge-delta-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-01 Thread Richard Yao
On 11/30/2012 12:30 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > How about we not change the docs until someone eagerly implements all > the stuff you just said? > > Note that from an infra POV our existing system works fairly well and > requires no day-to-day tinkering. > I'm always happy to consider new options, bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-01 Thread Richard Yao
On 11/30/2012 01:06 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 30/11/12 12:30 PM, Alec Warner wrote: >>> How about we not change the docs until someone eagerly implements >>> all the stuff you just said? > > > Well, using emerge-webrsync for grabbing the initial snapshot during > an installation still make

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-01 Thread Zac Medico
On 11/30/2012 09:55 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 30/11/12 12:30 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > How about we not change the docs until someone eagerly implements > all the stuff you just said? > > Well, using emerge-webrsync for gra

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 30/11/12 12:30 PM, Alec Warner wrote: >>> How about we not change the docs until someone eagerly implements >>> all the stuff you just said? >> > > Well, using emerge-webrsync for g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-30 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/11/12 12:30 PM, Alec Warner wrote: >> How about we not change the docs until someone eagerly implements >> all the stuff you just said? > Well, using emerge-webrsync for grabbing the initial snapshot during an installation still makes sense r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-30 Thread Zac Medico
On 11/28/2012 09:50 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:05:55 -0500 > Richard Yao wrote: > >> On 11/28/2012 09:17 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Richard Yao wrote: We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure if we told peo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 30/11/12 11:15 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Richard Yao >> wrote: >>> On 11/28/2012 11:08 AM, Matthew Thode wrote: On 11/28/2012 09:05 AM, Richar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-30 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > My main concern is that > maintaining weekly full snapshots would require too much space for the > mirrors. Mirrors already keep last 8 full daily snapshots, in 2 formats each, e.g.: http://mirrors.kernel.org/gentoo/snapshots/ -- Maxim Kamme

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-30 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/11/12 11:15 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Richard Yao > wrote: >> On 11/28/2012 11:08 AM, Matthew Thode wrote: >>> On 11/28/2012 09:05 AM, Richard Yao wrote: On 11/28/2012 09:17 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-30 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Richard Yao wrote: > On 11/28/2012 11:08 AM, Matthew Thode wrote: >> On 11/28/2012 09:05 AM, Richard Yao wrote: >>> On 11/28/2012 09:17 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > We could slightly simplify the handboo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-30 Thread Richard Yao
On 11/28/2012 11:08 AM, Matthew Thode wrote: > On 11/28/2012 09:05 AM, Richard Yao wrote: >> On 11/28/2012 09:17 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Richard Yao wrote: We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure if we told people to use emerg

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-30 Thread Richard Yao
On 11/30/2012 06:46 AM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > On Nov 29, 2012 10:24 AM, "Markos Chandras" wrote: >>> We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure if we >>> told people to use emerge-webrsync to fetch the initial snapshot. What >>> do people think? >>> >> >> Seems a good improve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-30 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Nov 29, 2012 10:24 AM, "Markos Chandras" wrote: > > We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure if we > > told people to use emerge-webrsync to fetch the initial snapshot. What > > do people think? > > > > Seems a good improvement to me. I'm ok with it as well. I'll draft up

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-29 Thread Markos Chandras
On 28 November 2012 13:54, Richard Yao wrote: > We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure if we > told people to use emerge-webrsync to fetch the initial snapshot. What > do people think? > Seems a good improvement to me. -- Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-28 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:05:55 -0500 Richard Yao wrote: > On 11/28/2012 09:17 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > >> We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure if we > >> told people to use emerge-webrsync to fetch the initial sna

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-28 Thread Matthew Thode
On 11/28/2012 09:05 AM, Richard Yao wrote: > On 11/28/2012 09:17 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >>> We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure if we >>> told people to use emerge-webrsync to fetch the initial snapshot. >> >> Usi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-28 Thread Richard Yao
On 11/28/2012 09:17 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure if we >> told people to use emerge-webrsync to fetch the initial snapshot. > > Using emerge-webrsync also makes the installation pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-28 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure if we > told people to use emerge-webrsync to fetch the initial snapshot. Using emerge-webrsync also makes the installation process more robust, since it only requires HTTP access

[gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-28 Thread Richard Yao
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