Re: [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd

2013-05-26 Thread Luca Barbato
On 5/26/13 3:35 PM, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: On Sun, 26 May 2013 13:59:34 +0200 Luca Barbato wrote: You need to name a unit with @ suffix, like openvpn@.service: $ cat /etc/systemd/system/openvpn@.service [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/sbin/openvpn --user openvpn --gr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd

2013-05-26 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Sun, 26 May 2013 13:59:34 +0200 Luca Barbato wrote: > On 5/26/13 1:15 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > I'd suspect this is mostly with the growing irritation of systemd > > haters who spawn endless threads about how they hate anything with > > 'systemd' name in it. Plus the people who try hard to p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd

2013-05-26 Thread Luca Barbato
On 5/26/13 1:15 PM, Michał Górny wrote: I'd suspect this is mostly with the growing irritation of systemd haters who spawn endless threads about how they hate anything with 'systemd' name in it. Plus the people who try hard to port the mistakes of OpenRC init scripts to systemd services files.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd

2013-05-26 Thread Luca Barbato
On 5/26/13 1:31 PM, Robert David wrote: Come on, it is 2013, wasting few inodes. I did not got these problems in the old good times with my 386 with 4mb ram and few MB hdd. Those with embedded system will mask many other files, not only systemd units (so they save one inode more with my approach,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd (was: Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697))

2013-05-26 Thread Robert David
On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:31:25 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:12:49 +0200 > Robert David wrote: > > > On Sun, 26 May 2013 05:49:48 -0400 > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Ben de Groot > > > wrote: > > > > On 26 May 2013 15:37, Michał Górny

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd

2013-05-26 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:23:51 +0200 Luca Barbato wrote: > On 5/26/13 9:37 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > By the way, we should really keep the separation between systemd itself > > and the unit files. I agree that systemd is not the best thing we could > > have. But the unit file format is, er, good

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd (was: Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697))

2013-05-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:12:49 +0200 > Robert David wrote: > >> On Sun, 26 May 2013 05:49:48 -0400 >> Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> > Init.d scripts are just shell scripts. All somebody needs to do is >> > write a shell script that parses a unit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd (was: Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697))

2013-05-26 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:12:49 +0200 Robert David wrote: > On Sun, 26 May 2013 05:49:48 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Ben de Groot > > wrote: > > > On 26 May 2013 15:37, Michał Górny wrote: > > >> > > >> Considering the design of OpenRC itself, it wouldn't b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd

2013-05-26 Thread Luca Barbato
On 5/26/13 9:37 AM, Michał Górny wrote: By the way, we should really keep the separation between systemd itself and the unit files. I agree that systemd is not the best thing we could have. But the unit file format is, er, good enough -- and has the advantage of eventually taking a lot of work fr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd (was: Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697))

2013-05-26 Thread Robert David
On Sun, 26 May 2013 05:49:48 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Ben de Groot > wrote: > > On 26 May 2013 15:37, Michał Górny wrote: > >> > >> Considering the design of OpenRC itself, it wouldn't be *that > >> hard*. Actually, a method similar to one used in oldnet woul

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd (was: Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697))

2013-05-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 26 May 2013 15:37, Michał Górny wrote: >> >> Considering the design of OpenRC itself, it wouldn't be *that hard*. >> Actually, a method similar to one used in oldnet would simply work. >> That is, symlinking init.d files to a common 'syste

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd (was: Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697))

2013-05-26 Thread Ben de Groot
On 26 May 2013 15:37, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 26 May 2013 00:14:36 +0800 > Ben de Groot wrote: > >> Systemd is diametrically opposed to the FreeBSD, customization, >> extreme configurability, and top-notch developer community aspects of >> that. Systemd upstream developers have made it abun

[gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd (was: Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697))

2013-05-26 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 26 May 2013 00:14:36 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > Systemd is diametrically opposed to the FreeBSD, customization, > extreme configurability, and top-notch developer community aspects of > that. Systemd upstream developers have made it abundantly clear they > are not interested in working w