Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-04 Thread waltdnes
On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 04:05:50PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote > On 04/05/16 03:43 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > > > emerge --keyword-write > > > > ... similar to "emerge --autounmask-write", but have it write to > > package.accept_keywords, rather than package.unmask? > > > > That wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-04 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 04/05/16 03:43 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > emerge --keyword-write > > ... similar to "emerge --autounmask-write", but have it write to > package.accept_keywords, rather than package.unmask? > > That would achieve the effect that people are looking for, with less > work. > --auto

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-04 Thread waltdnes
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 09:46:10PM -0700, Matt Turner wrote > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > >> The solution is to have people with an actual interest in a specific > >> architecture determine whether stabilising a p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-04 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: >> Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> "doing your job" >> >> Remember that everyone is a volunteer. > > I am referring to arch testing as a job, because it only really works > if people treat it that wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-04 Thread Damien LEVAC
On 05/04/2016 11:41 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 04/05/16 02:01 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: On 4 May 2016 at 16:46, Matt Turner wrote: Having built many stages for an "unstable" arch (mips) has taught me one thing: it's awful being unstable-only. There's no end to the compilation failures and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-04 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> "doing your job" > > Remember that everyone is a volunteer. I am referring to arch testing as a job, because it only really works if people treat it that way. If stabilization does not take place in a timely manner, the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-04 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 04/05/16 02:01 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 4 May 2016 at 16:46, Matt Turner wrote: >> Having built many stages for an "unstable" arch (mips) has taught me >> one thing: it's awful being unstable-only. There's no end to the >> compilation failures and other such headaches, none of which have >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-04 Thread Peter Stuge
Mike Gilbert wrote: > "doing your job" Remember that everyone is a volunteer. > dropping stable keywords on everything but the bare necessities Gentoo magically does a number of things which upstream never intended and do not intentionally support. It is amazing, and thank you so much to everyo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-04 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 12:46 AM, Matt Turner wrote: > Having built many stages for an "unstable" arch (mips) has taught me > one thing: it's awful being unstable-only. There's no end to the > compilation failures and other such headaches, none of which have > anything at all to do with the specifi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 05/04/2016 06:46 AM, Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: >>> The solution is to have people with an actual interest in a specific >>> architecture determine whether stabilising a package is viable, an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-03 Thread Kent Fredric
On 4 May 2016 at 16:46, Matt Turner wrote: > Having built many stages for an "unstable" arch (mips) has taught me > one thing: it's awful being unstable-only. There's no end to the > compilation failures and other such headaches, none of which have > anything at all to do with the specific archite

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-03 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: >> The solution is to have people with an actual interest in a specific >> architecture determine whether stabilising a package is viable, and >> taking sensible action, like dropping stabl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-03 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > The solution is to have people with an actual interest in a specific > architecture determine whether stabilising a package is viable, and > taking sensible action, like dropping stable keywords where applicable. If these people do not actua

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 1 May 2016 16:16:59 -0700 Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 05/01/2016 07:03 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 1. Mai 2016, 15:32:27 schrieb Jeroen Roovers: > >> On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 23:16:42 +0200 > > > > (For the record, hppa is definitely NOT the problem.) > > > Forgive me

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-02 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Monday 02 of May 2016 16:43:01 you wrote: | On Saturday 30 of April 2016 23:16:42 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: | | Hi all, | | | | just as a small reminder, to ease the load on all arch teams: | | | | If a stablerequest has the keyword ALLARCHES set, then | | * the first arch that tests successfu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-02 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Saturday 30 of April 2016 23:16:42 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: | Hi all, | | just as a small reminder, to ease the load on all arch teams: | | If a stablerequest has the keyword ALLARCHES set, then | * the first arch that tests successfully and stabilizes | * can and *should* immediately stabili

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-01 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 05/01/2016 07:03 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. Mai 2016, 15:32:27 schrieb Jeroen Roovers: >> On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 23:16:42 +0200 > > (For the record, hppa is definitely NOT the problem.) > Forgive me, I just pulled hppa out of the air as an example of a secondary, different arc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > And it means we're missing opportunities where "pure" interpreted > packages may test corner cases of the language implementation and find > bugs in (JIT or previously) "compiled" code. And that means we're > calling things "stable" that may

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-01 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Sonntag, 1. Mai 2016, 15:32:27 schrieb Jeroen Roovers: > On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 23:16:42 +0200 > > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > > just as a small reminder, to ease the load on all arch teams: > > > > If a stablerequest has the keyword ALLARCHES s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 23:16:42 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > just as a small reminder, to ease the load on all arch teams: > > If a stablerequest has the keyword ALLARCHES set, then > * the first arch that tests successfully and stabilizes > * can and *should* immediately stabilize for all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-05-01 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 04/30/2016 07:26 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> >> As you said, however, it's a choice of the maintainer. Things like Perl >> and Python may be less prone to this issue since they're meant to be >> portable. >> > > The concept is that the m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-04-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > > As you said, however, it's a choice of the maintainer. Things like Perl > and Python may be less prone to this issue since they're meant to be > portable. > The concept is that the maintainer will only use this when this is the case. Th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-04-30 Thread Matthew Thode
On 04/30/2016 07:53 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 04/30/2016 02:16 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> just as a small reminder, to ease the load on all arch teams: >> >> If a stablerequest has the keyword ALLARCHES set, then >> * the first arch that tests successfully and stabilize

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-04-30 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 04/30/2016 02:16 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Hi all, > > just as a small reminder, to ease the load on all arch teams: > > If a stablerequest has the keyword ALLARCHES set, then > * the first arch that tests successfully and stabilizes > * can and *should* immediately stabilize for all

[gentoo-dev] Reminder: ALLARCHES

2016-04-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi all, just as a small reminder, to ease the load on all arch teams: If a stablerequest has the keyword ALLARCHES set, then * the first arch that tests successfully and stabilizes * can and *should* immediately stabilize for all requested arch