Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > Certainly. But it is likely much more interesting work and has > considerably more impact. The mentoring period and the review have considerable impact too. Whether you think one is more important than the other depends on you thinking short

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/15/2012 11:11 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > (Please consider quoting only what is relevant. Thanks!) > > Markos Chandras wrote: >> In my opinion, the quizzes contain all the knowledge that is >> required for someone to start developing for Gentoo.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > less idiotic > idiots such as perhaps myself need years because we're doing > whatever work as opposed to learning foundation bylaws by heart. Well, I don't think the bylaws are a terribly important topic for the quizzes, and unless somethin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ben de Groot
On 15 July 2012 21:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:45:25 +0800 > Ben de Groot wrote: >> It's not that it takes all that much time. It can be done in say one >> or two workdays. But you need to set aside a block of time (and >> usually two, one for each of the quizzes, or more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Peter Stuge
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > you need to set aside a block of time (and usually two > > ...and you don't need to be able to put in that level of attention > every now and again when you're a developer? Not the same amount of meta time, no. I agree with the estimate of about two days for the quizze

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:45:25 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > It's not that it takes all that much time. It can be done in say one > or two workdays. But you need to set aside a block of time (and > usually two, one for each of the quizzes, or more if you need to > break it up or iterate over it after

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ben de Groot
On 15 July 2012 21:27, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Ciaran McCreesh > wrote: >> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:15:26 +0800 >> Ben de Groot wrote: >>> The first time I did the quizzes, it took me 9 months. After having >>> been away for a couple of years, I recently returned as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:15:26 +0800 > Ben de Groot wrote: >> The first time I did the quizzes, it took me 9 months. After having >> been away for a couple of years, I recently returned as Gentoo >> dev, and the second time I did the quizzes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > I've been managing my own overlay and a few private ones for a few > years now, all while using catalyst to build more or less customized > Linux systems for me and for others. > > I dive into bugzilla when a bug bites, and I'll usually generat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:15:26 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > The first time I did the quizzes, it took me 9 months. After having > been away for a couple of years, I recently returned as Gentoo > dev, and the second time I did the quizzes it took me 3 months. > I've seen others take a long time doing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Saturday 14 of July 2012 10:32:04 Markos Chandras wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Dear Gentoo Community, > > If you are not a recruit, mentor, or wannabe mentor you may stop > reading now. > > We (recruiters) decided to revert back to the quizzes for the > recru

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Peter Stuge
(Please consider quoting only what is relevant. Thanks!) Markos Chandras wrote: > In my opinion, the quizzes contain all the knowledge that is > required for someone to start developing for Gentoo. Yes, maybe > it requires too much knowledge So which is it? "All that is required" or "too much?"

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/15/2012 06:15 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 15 July 2012 04:46, Peter Stuge wrote: >> Markos Chandras wrote: >>> understand that quizzes is not an ideal way to "hire" people >>> either, but they worked ok for all these years >> >> I don't kno

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-14 Thread Ben de Groot
On 15 July 2012 04:46, Peter Stuge wrote: > Markos Chandras wrote: >> understand that quizzes is not an ideal way to "hire" people >> either, but they worked ok for all these years > > I don't know.. Subjectively I don't think they work ok at all, since > I still haven't finished them even after m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Hi, Markos Chandras wrote: > We (recruiters) decided to revert back to the quizzes for the > recruitment process. The web application does not work as we expected. I've been considering recruitment for many years and I made my first effort to prepare for recruitment about two years ago, but I hav

[gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-14 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dear Gentoo Community, If you are not a recruit, mentor, or wannabe mentor you may stop reading now. We (recruiters) decided to revert back to the quizzes for the recruitment process. The web application does not work as we expected. There are a fe