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On 09/04/16 01:18 PM, »Q« wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:09:38 -0400 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
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>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 07:11:31AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
>>
>>> It was simply a recognition that we were already in a state
>>> where booting
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 21:18:37 -0400
waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 04:30:04PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
>
> > Half the reason we don't officially support running without /usr
> > mounted during early boot is that if we actually put everything in /
> > that could conceivably
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Tho with the initr*, I did go the dracut route myself. But I'm still not
> entirely convinced that I wouldn't have been better off rolling my own,
> as I'm still not entirely comfortable with the level to which I
> understan
Rich Freeman posted on Sat, 09 Apr 2016 21:07:46 -0400 as excerpted:
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 8:09 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>
>> I actually write my own initramfs because neither dracut not genkernel
>> end up with a convenient boot system.
>>
>> I have 2 disks, both encrypted.
>> I prefer only t
Dale posted on Sat, 09 Apr 2016 13:42:37 -0500 as excerpted:
> James Le Cuirot wrote:
>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:09:38 -0400 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
>>
I never really got the mentality that using an initramfs is a burden.
>>> One more piece of software that can go wrong. You have to
>>>
Nicolas Sebrecht posted on Sat, 09 Apr 2016 14:44:25 +0200 as excerpted:
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 07:58:35AM +, Duncan wrote:
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>> > I would also re-iterate, as I'm sure you're aware .. there ARE
>> > differences between sbin and bin .. unless of course you spend all
>> > your time in a Root
Luca Barbato posted on Sat, 09 Apr 2016 15:03:15 +0200 as excerpted:
> On 09/04/16 14:37, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> I've certainly haven't had many problems with dracut. When it fails it
>> is usually because I'm doing something ELSE that is off-the-wall and it
>> just doesn't have a plugin for it y
On 09/04/2016 20:34, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 12:18:25PM -0500, »Q« wrote
>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:09:38 -0400
>> waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 07:11:31AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
>>>
It was simply a recognition that we were already
On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 1:34 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 12:18:25PM -0500, »Q« wrote
>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:09:38 -0400
>> waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 07:11:31AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
>> >
>> > > It was simply a recognition that we were already in a
On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 12:18:25PM -0500, »Q« wrote
> On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:09:38 -0400
> waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 07:11:31AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
> >
> > > It was simply a recognition that we were already in a state where
> > > booting a system without /usr
On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:09:38 -0400
waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 07:11:31AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
>
> > It was simply a recognition that we were already in a state where
> > booting a system without /usr mounted early can cause problems.
>
> For certain edge cases..
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 07:58:35AM +, Duncan wrote:
> > I would also re-iterate, as I'm sure you're aware .. there ARE
> > differences between sbin and bin .. unless of course you spend all your
> > time in a Rooted VM where it doesn't matter if you accidentally trash
> > your system. Some of
Rich Freeman posted on Fri, 08 Apr 2016 06:36:48 -0400 as excerpted:
> Really though the main point of merging these paths into /usr is to get
> all the static content of a distro into a single path, which can then be
> maintained as a read-only filesystem, mounted across multiple systems,
> prote
M. J. Everitt posted on Fri, 08 Apr 2016 03:35:33 +0100 as excerpted:
> On 08/04/16 02:42, William Hubbs wrote:
>> The default installation location of all coreutils binaries is
>> /usr/bin, then we move everything around in the ebuild.
>> We are deviating from upstream in this example.
>>
> I wo
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:46 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
>> #!/bin/bash will work whether you've done a usr merge or not
>> #!/usr/bin/bash will probably only work if you've done the usr merge
>> #!/usr/bin/python will work whether you've done a usr merge or not
>> #!/bin/python will probably only wo
On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 11:42:01AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> > William Hubbs posted on Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:40:49 -0500 as excerpted:
> >
> >> After the testing period is over, I'm confused about why we should
> >> support bo
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> William Hubbs posted on Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:40:49 -0500 as excerpted:
>
>> After the testing period is over, I'm confused about why we should
>> support both layouts. With separate usr without initramfs gone, the usr
>> merge i
William Hubbs posted on Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:40:49 -0500 as excerpted:
> After the testing period is over, I'm confused about why we should
> support both layouts. With separate usr without initramfs gone, the usr
> merge is transparent to end users because of the symbolic links in /, so
> there sh
Richard Yao posted on Wed, 06 Apr 2016 10:04:05 -0400 as excerpted:
> That being said, this is only useful for new installs where people want
> to take advantage of the Solaris way of doing management. It should have
> no benefit for existing installs.
I don't know enough about solaris to comment
On 04/06/2016 01:34 AM, Duncan wrote:
> Richard Yao posted on Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:15:58 -0400 as excerpted:
>
>
>>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 9:19 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I thought that since the usr merge is coming up again, and since I lost
>>> track of the message where it was
Richard Yao posted on Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:15:58 -0400 as excerpted:
>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 9:19 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I thought that since the usr merge is coming up again, and since I lost
>> track of the message where it was brought up, I would open a new thread
>> to disc
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On 04/05/2016 12:53 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:26:53 PM CEST, Duncan wrote:
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>> As I said in the other thread, I'm running merged /usr and
>> bin/sbin here, except that I merged them the other way, with /usr
>> -> . so
Alexis Ballier posted on Tue, 05 Apr 2016 12:10:51 +0200 as excerpted:
> On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 3:19:59 AM CEST, William Hubbs wrote:
> [...]
>> I don't think creating usr merged stages would be that difficult. I
>> think it would just be a matter of creating a new version of baselayout
>> that
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