On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:20:39 -0400
Michael Mol wrote:
> On Apr 26, 2013 4:59 AM, "Tobias Klausmann"
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Apr 2013, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> > > I'm still not quite sure what newnet does that oldnet doesn't, or
> > > why somebody felt it was necessary to make a new package (an
On Apr 26, 2013 4:59 AM, "Tobias Klausmann" wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> > I'm still not quite sure what newnet does that oldnet doesn't, or
> > why somebody felt it was necessary to make a new package (and no,
> > let's not discuss that here). Whatever it is,
Hi!
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> I'm still not quite sure what newnet does that oldnet doesn't, or
> why somebody felt it was necessary to make a new package (and no,
> let's not discuss that here). Whatever it is, ideally, it would
> reflected in the name(s). And package descri
Hi!
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013, Steven J. Long wrote:
> Thanks, that sounds reasonable: one minor nitpick, though. Could you not
> call it 'stdnet'? Since from all the other discussion it appears like this
> is not going away soon for the vast majority of users, but simply being
> maintained as another
Carlos Silva posted on Thu, 25 Apr 2013 22:51:01 + as excerpted:
> gentoo *running* in a box without it having network connection
> [is AFAIK] not something any John Doe would do. Offline
> installations and "runtimes" are for geeks that use linux for a long
> time and know how the system work
I *really* hate those virtual dependencies that don't actually satisfy
a real dependency, and require manual choice-specific intervention by
the user anyway. For example, packages that build external kernel
modules tend to depend on virtual/kernel-sources. However, this
dependency doesn't make sure
Carlos Silva wrote:
> John Doe
..runs Windows.
> is it a safe default meaning that 99% or more of the people will
> use or *need* it?
Nobody suggested that networking should be disabled or excluded by default.
//Peter
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
Maybe I was miss understood here. I know that there are tons of ways to
have gentoo *running* in a box without it having network connection. The
thing is that makes like 0.01% of the total installs. It's not a default
ins
Carlos Silva posted on Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:13:56 + as excerpted:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>
>> It it isn't necessary for a system to have support for either oldnet or
>> newnet. Sure, it is rare these days, but networking support should be
>> a default, not a r
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:30:25PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:16:51PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:54 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > if we keep a dependency for a while, even behind something like
> > > IUSE="+oldnet", when we drop it, peop
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