Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-07 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 02:50:56PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 03:30:41PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On 07/08/15 03:18 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 01:39:25PM -0400, Ian Stakenvi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-07 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 03:30:41PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 07/08/15 03:18 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 01:39:25PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > >> > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-07 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/08/15 03:18 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 01:39:25PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 07/08/15 12:59 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 12:10:56PM

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-07 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 01:39:25PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 07/08/15 12:59 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 12:10:56PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > >> > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-07 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/08/15 12:59 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 12:10:56PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 07/08/15 11:30 AM, William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 08:07:44PM

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-07 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 12:10:56PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 07/08/15 11:30 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 08:07:44PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > >> > >> Can we get "nofail" immediately in the mount -a vari

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-07 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/08/15 11:30 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 08:07:44PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> >> Can we get "nofail" immediately in the mount -a variants of >> localmount/netmount and expand that in netmount to make the >> nfscli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-07 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 08:07:44PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > Can we get "nofail" immediately in the mount -a variants of > localmount/netmount and expand that in netmount to make the nfsclient dep be > a "use" or a "need" depending on if it's set or not?? That would imo kill > the exi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-06 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > William Hubbs posted on Thu, 06 Aug 2015 16:36:49 -0500 as excerpted: > >> Also, I want to talk more about netmount and localmount failing. >> >> If netmount and localmount are set up to fail if one of the file systems >> t

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-06 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Thu, 06 Aug 2015 16:36:49 -0500 as excerpted: > Also, I want to talk more about netmount and localmount failing. > > If netmount and localmount are set up to fail if one of the file systems > they mount fails (which is what other init systems out there do), the > sys admin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-06 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/08/15 02:58 AM, Duncan wrote: > William Hubbs posted on Wed, 05 Aug 2015 10:26:33 -0500 as > excerpted: > >> It isn't localmount that would have the issue, but mount.* >> because they are lexically after localmount, so you would end up >> with

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-05 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Wed, 05 Aug 2015 10:26:33 -0500 as excerpted: > It isn't localmount that would have the issue, but mount.* because they > are lexically after localmount, so you would end up with localmount > doing a mount -a then mount.* coming later trying to mount file systems > again th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-05 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 10:18:13AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 05/08/15 10:01 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 04:50:40AM +, Duncan wrote: > >> Ian Stakenvicius posted on Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:17:51 -0400 as > >> e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-05 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/08/15 10:01 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 04:50:40AM +, Duncan wrote: >> Ian Stakenvicius posted on Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:17:51 -0400 as >> excerpted: >> >>> So what you are suggesting here now is that you want to (A) >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-05 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 04:50:40AM +, Duncan wrote: > Ian Stakenvicius posted on Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:17:51 -0400 as excerpted: > > > So what you are suggesting here now is that you want to (A) potentially > > break mounting with the need to externally manage mounts via services in > > openrc i

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-08-04 Thread Duncan
Ian Stakenvicius posted on Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:17:51 -0400 as excerpted: > So what you are suggesting here now is that you want to (A) potentially > break mounting with the need to externally manage mounts via services in > openrc instead of just using /etc/fstab, and (B) also break services if >

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: improve file system mounting and unmounting in OpenRC

2015-07-29 Thread Duncan
Daniel Campbell (zlg) posted on Wed, 29 Jul 2015 01:54:03 -0700 as excerpted: > On 07/28/2015 06:57 AM, William Hubbs wrote: >> >> I don't quite understand your question, but I'll give it a shot. >> >> With the new mount service, it will not matter whether the file systems >> are local or on the