I think this might be one reason that /etc/mtab was deprecated in favor of
a symlink to /proc/mounts :P
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> Rich Freeman posted on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 07:22:36 -0500 as excerpted:
>
> > 4. In the runlevel paradigm you usually think
Rich Freeman posted on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 07:22:36 -0500 as excerpted:
> 4. In the runlevel paradigm you usually think of services running
> inside a runlevel (perhaps this isn't strictly true, but most people
> think this way, in part because runlevels don't change much). In
> systemd this really
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 3:57 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 17 Feb 2016 08:46:34 -0500 as excerpted:
>
>> When systemd says "target" - think "virtual service." The equivalent in
>> openrc would be an init.d script that has dependencies but which doesn't
>> a
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Richard Yao wrote:
>
> dracut does not assist those who do not want generic kernel
> configurations. Unfortunately, the handbook does not do a good job in
> saying that the initramfs generation and generic kernel configurations
> are optional.
>
No argument that
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Richard Yao wrote:
>
> Dracut handling it well is not up for dispute. When I checked last year,
> dracut simply did not tell systemd to use this functionality because it
> was unnecessary functionality that only served to slowed down the
> shutdown process. It onl
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:11:42 -0500
Richard Yao wrote:
> dracut does not assist those who do not want generic kernel
> configurations. Unfortunately, the handbook does not do a good job in
> saying that the initramfs generation and generic kernel configurations
> are optional.
Does Dracut's hosto
Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 17 Feb 2016 08:46:34 -0500 as excerpted:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Initial shutdown is via two targets (as opposed to specific services),
>
> Since not everybody in this thread may be familiar with systemd, I'll
> jus
On 02/17/2016 01:32 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>>
>> Genkernel's initramfs generation was what we endorsed for the most
>> part, until dracut came around. it's hard to say what "most" are
>> doing but i expect dracut and genkernel based init
On 02/17/2016 12:19 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Richard Yao wrote:
>> Systemd installs that go back into the initramfs at shutdown are rare
>> because there is a
>> hook for the initramfs to tell systemd that it should re-exec it and very
>> few configurations
>> d
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On 02/17/2016 09:30 AM, James Le Cuirot wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:19:52 -0500 Rich Freeman
> wrote:
>
>> Is dracut still not widely used? I know that it was all the
>> fashion for a decade or two for every distro to build their own
>> initra
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>
> Genkernel's initramfs generation was what we endorsed for the most
> part, until dracut came around. it's hard to say what "most" are
> doing but i expect dracut and genkernel based initramfs's make up
> the vast majority in use by gent
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On 17/02/16 12:30 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:19:52 -0500 Rich Freeman
> wrote:
>
>> Is dracut still not widely used? I know that it was all the
>> fashion for a decade or two for every distro to build their own
>> initramf
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:19:52 -0500
Rich Freeman wrote:
> Is dracut still not widely used? I know that it was all the fashion
> for a decade or two for every distro to build their own initramfs, but
> I don't get why anybody wouldn't just make the switch - it is far more
> capable and configurabl
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Richard Yao wrote:
> Systemd installs that go back into the initramfs at shutdown are rare because
> there is a
> hook for the initramfs to tell systemd that it should re-exec it and very few
> configurations
> do that. Even fewer that do it actually need it.
Wh
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 9:20 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> William Hubbs posted on Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:41:29 -0600 as excerpted:
>
>> What I'm trying to figure out is, what to do about re-mounting file
>> systems read-only.
>>
>> How does systemd do this? I didn't find an equivale
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Initial shutdown is via two targets (as opposed to specific services),
Since not everybody in this thread may be familiar with systemd, I'll
just add a quick definition.
When systemd says "target" - think "virtual service."
William Hubbs posted on Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:41:29 -0600 as excerpted:
> What I'm trying to figure out is, what to do about re-mounting file
> systems read-only.
>
> How does systemd do this? I didn't find an equivalent of the mount-ro
> service there.
For quite some time now, systemd has actuall
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