On 07/09/2017 06:53 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 00:42:46 -0700
> Daniel Campbell wrote:
>
>>> - Sets used in profiles cannot have use expansion, versions or
>>> anything beyond cat/pkg.
>> This would break some set behavior, at least in Portage. Specifying a
>> singl
On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:30:06 -0700
Zac Medico wrote:
>
> Yeah, but it's not going to happen without an EAPI/PMS extension.
> There needs to be a standard way for the package manager to check if
> there has been an upstream change for a given package since the last
> time it was rebuilt.
Something
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 00:42:46 -0700
Daniel Campbell wrote:
> > - Sets used in profiles cannot have use expansion, versions or
> > anything beyond cat/pkg.
> This would break some set behavior, at least in Portage. Specifying a
> single version (or better, a slot) in a set is less work than addin
On 07/08/2017 06:23 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 01:10:11 +0100
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:58:13 -0400
>> "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote:
>>> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 00:49:57 +0100
>>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:39:33 -0400
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 6:39 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 18:30:10 -0700
> Zac Medico wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 4:46 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
>> wrote:
>> > On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 16:35:34 -0700
>> > Zac Medico wrote:
>> >
>> >> For live-rebuild, it would be
>> >
On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 18:30:10 -0700
Zac Medico wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 4:46 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 16:35:34 -0700
> > Zac Medico wrote:
> >
> >> For live-rebuild, it would be
> >> much nicer to have a framework that automatically triggers rebuilds
> >
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 4:46 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 16:35:34 -0700
> Zac Medico wrote:
>
>> For live-rebuild, it would be
>> much nicer to have a framework that automatically triggers rebuilds
>> when upstream changes are detected, like smart-live-rebuild.
>
> Which
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 01:10:11 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:58:13 -0400
> "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote:
> > On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 00:49:57 +0100
> > Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:39:33 -0400
> > > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote:
> > > > The two wa
On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:58:13 -0400
"William L. Thomson Jr." wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 00:49:57 +0100
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:39:33 -0400
> > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote:
> > > The two ways are not the same, and there is a reason sets exist in
> > > the first plac
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 00:49:57 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:39:33 -0400
> "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote:
> > The two ways are not the same, and there is a reason sets exist in
> > the first place. People seem to be over looking that fact. I did
> > not add sets. They are no
On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:39:33 -0400
"William L. Thomson Jr." wrote:
> The two ways are not the same, and there is a reason sets exist in the
> first place. People seem to be over looking that fact. I did not add
> sets. They are not new. I am simply trying to expand their use.
Sets exist because p
On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 16:35:34 -0700
Zac Medico wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 4:09 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
> wrote:
> > Sets are also used for package rebuilds, like x11-module-rebuild,
> > live-rebuild, and others.
>
> Usually there are better ways to trigger rebuilds.
Those have nothing
On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:24:46 -0400
Rich Freeman wrote:
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> I don't see why a package manager couldn't offer the same
> functionality for a meta package. As was pointed out the set behavior
> for unmerging isn't always desirable.
Your missing that sets maybe made by the user, Making a meta ebuild
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 4:09 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> Sets are also used for package rebuilds, like x11-module-rebuild,
> live-rebuild, and others.
Usually there are better ways to trigger rebuilds. For example, slot
operator dependencies for rebuilds due to subslot changes, and
--newus
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 7:09 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 18:34:55 -0400
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>> What do sets get us that packages do not? Why not move the other
>> direction and just have packages instead of sets?
>
> The blog entry I provided a link to I think made
On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 18:34:55 -0400
Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> What do sets get us that packages do not? Why not move the other
> direction and just have packages instead of sets?
The blog entry I provided a link to I think made the best case example
of usage of sets and their benefits.
https://maku
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Michael Palimaka wrote:
>
> Bug #272488[0] proposed a PROPERTIES="set" feature to combine the power
> of sets with the flexibility of ebuilds.
>
> 1: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=272488
>
What do sets get us that packages do not? Why not move the other
On 07/08/2017 02:48 AM, NP-Hardass wrote:
> On 07/07/2017 12:32 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>> I have been playing with some package sets and I like the concept of
>> sets quite a lot. However there is one big drawback. You cannot use a
>> package set in a profile. Or at least I do not think
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