Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-12 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 07/12/2010 12:56 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: > >> I remember very clearly as you and I were both council members at the >> time. My point is that this discussion does not need to even happen >> and the council shouldn't even remotely be invol

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-12 Thread Petteri Räty
On 07/12/2010 12:56 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: > I remember very clearly as you and I were both council members at the > time. My point is that this discussion does not need to even happen > and the council shouldn't even remotely be involved here. > I assumed the best way to change policy would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11-07-2010 21:56, Doug Goldstein wrote: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi Doug. >> > Jorge, > > I remember very clearly as you and I were both counc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Doug. > > On 11-07-2010 16:03, Doug Goldstein wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: >>> On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: >>> If I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 07:47:24PM +0300, Petteri RRRty wrote: > On 07/11/2010 07:37 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > > > > >> Simply put, the council's purpose is not to say "oh we have to stop > >> development and have a 4 week debate about everything minor". The > >> council's purpose i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Petteri Räty
On 07/11/2010 07:37 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > >> Simply put, the council's purpose is not to say "oh we have to stop >> development and have a 4 week debate about everything minor". The >> council's purpose is to help decide between different technical >> solutions and encourage peo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug. On 11-07-2010 16:03, Doug Goldstein wrote: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: >> On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: >> >>> If I really need to go to the council with every change, considering >>> it must be deb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: > >> If I really need to go to the council with every change, considering >> it must be debated on the ML for at least X number of days prior to >> going to the council, I'd more likely just remove

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Petteri Räty
On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: > If I really need to go to the council with every change, considering > it must be debated on the ML for at least X number of days prior to > going to the council, I'd more likely just remove MythTV from the tree > and maintain it in an overlay. I don

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-10 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 01:34:37 -0700 > Brian Harring wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 09:30:42AM +0300, Petteri RRRty wrote: >> > The standing policy is still not to remove any public functionality from >> > eclasses. If we decide to start rem

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 01:34:37 -0700 Brian Harring wrote: > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 09:30:42AM +0300, Petteri RRRty wrote: > > The standing policy is still not to remove any public functionality from > > eclasses. If we decide to start removing functionality the council > > should set common rules