On 18.1.2010 4.17, Richard Freeman wrote:
On 01/17/2010 08:23 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
What about something like: if a bug has been open for 2 months without
any apparent maintainer activity, anyone can step in and commit a fix?
How about - anybody at any time can at their discretion post a co
On 01/17/2010 08:23 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
What about something like: if a bug has been open for 2 months without
any apparent maintainer activity, anyone can step in and commit a fix?
How about - anybody at any time can at their discretion post a comment
in a bug asking if there are objecti
2010/1/17 Thilo Bangert :
> no - i wasn't talking about maintainer-needed bugs. it is my impression,
> that many apparently maintained packages have simple bugs lingering for
> extended periods of time. Fx. users reporting bugs AND supplying fixes,
> ready to be committed.
>
> i dont want to step o
Mike Frysinger said:
> On Sunday 17 January 2010 15:20:46 Thilo Bangert wrote:
> > Ben de Groot said:
> > > I think we have a bigger problem with packages that have a
> > > maintainer, at least nominally, but said maintainer does not
> > > actually maintain the package anymore.
> >
> > full ack.
On Sunday 17 January 2010 15:20:46 Thilo Bangert wrote:
> Ben de Groot said:
> > I think we have a bigger problem with packages that have a maintainer,
> > at least nominally, but said maintainer does not actually maintain the
> > package anymore.
>
> full ack. i was thinking that maybe we need a
On 01/17/2010 03:20 PM, Thilo Bangert wrote:
Ben de Groot said:
I think we have a bigger problem with packages that have a maintainer,
at least nominally, but said maintainer does not actually maintain the
package anymore.
full ack. i was thinking that maybe we need an 'easy-fix' team, which
Ben de Groot said:
> I think we have a bigger problem with packages that have a maintainer,
> at least nominally, but said maintainer does not actually maintain the
> package anymore.
full ack. i was thinking that maybe we need an 'easy-fix' team, which can
do all the easy fixes, which have been
I think we have a bigger problem with packages that have a maintainer,
at least nominally, but said maintainer does not actually maintain the
package anymore.
--
Ben de Groot
Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc)
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:35:45 +0100
Ben de Groot wrote:
> 2010/1/12 Markos Chandras :
> > If you feel like it, become a proxy-maintainer and poke a developer
> > to put your ebuilds on tree. Have you ever heard of that ? :)
>
> Proxy-maintainership should be given a MUCH higher profile in Gentoo,
On 01/13/2010 10:06 AM, Arnaud Launay wrote:
which kind of explain what is a proxy maintainer (more or less),
but does not explain how to become one...
We don't really have any official process around this. Things like
sunrise and proxy-maintainers are good ways to get new blood into the
co
On 01/13/2010 09:24 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Tuesday 12 January 2010 15:51:28 Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
And since WE want to enable as-needed as default at some time we need to
work on the bugs
which isnt going to happen
This isn't really intended to point fingers at anybody in particular - I
Le Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 06:52:09AM +0100, Jeroen Roovers a écrit:
> > BTW, I have no knowledge of the concept of proxy-maintainer, I'll
> It should probably be documented at the official places [1][2].
> [1] http://devmanual.gentoo.org
> [2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xm
On Tuesday 12 January 2010 15:51:28 Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> Your approach of adding new packages to main tree is that you add them
> with empty metadata.xml and we have to remove them in few years because
> they are steaming piles of bugs...
not that this is relevant at all to my point, but when i
Jeroen Roovers posted on Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:48:18 +0100 as excerpted:
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:37:19 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> So going with this idea... Isn't the treecleaner masking 30-day at
>> present? What about extending that just a bit, to 5 weeks total, wh
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:18:59 +0100
Arnaud Launay wrote:
> I have absolutely no idea how much work it requires, so I won't
> complain if TC says it's too complicated/unpratical/etc.
rm -r * is easy.
> BTW, I have no knowledge of the concept of proxy-maintainer, I'll
> look at it tomorrow, it's 2
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:37:19 + (UTC)
Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> So going with this idea... Isn't the treecleaner masking 30-day at
> present? What about extending that just a bit, to 5 weeks total,
> while reducing the actual masking to 4 weeks, with the extra week a
> wait time
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:51:28 +0100
Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> > you need to fix your filter then. an "open bug" is not an
> > acceptable reason for masking a package. if you're going to clean
> > a package, you need to research actual reasons to mask & punt.
> > -mike
> Dont be joking,
> Your appro
Le Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:37:19PM +, Duncan a écrit:
> FWIW, I feel for the treecleaners. It's a job with little
> thanks and lots of chance to make someone mad at you, but I'm
> glad /someone's/ doing it! =:^)
Yeah. I'm glad each time I see old things getting deleted,
abandoned software and
Richard Freeman posted on Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:07:38 -0500 as excerpted:
> On 01/12/2010 01:30 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
>> IMHO ( this is not a treecleaners@ opinion, i m just talking for my
>> self ), announcing and masking a package is a good way to inform and
>> wake up everybody to take care
Ben de Groot posted on Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:35:45 +0100 as excerpted:
> 2010/1/12 Markos Chandras :
>> If you feel like it, become a proxy-maintainer and poke a developer to
>> put your ebuilds on tree. Have you ever heard of that ? :)
>
> Proxy-maintainership should be given a MUCH higher profile
2010/1/12 Tomáš Chvátal :
> Dont be joking,
[...]
Mmmh? Take a deep breath, a long walk, a large beer, or whatever
works. Because you need it.
Denis.
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Dne 12.1.2010 21:33, Mike Frysinger napsal(a):
> On Monday 11 January 2010 22:43:18 Jeremy Olexa wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:36:37 -0500, Richard Freeman wrote:
>>> On 01/11/2010 06:30 PM, Arnaud Launay wrote:
As a newsmaster, I'm a bit conce
2010/1/12 Markos Chandras :
> If you feel like it, become a proxy-maintainer and poke a developer to put
> your ebuilds on tree. Have you ever heard of that ? :)
Proxy-maintainership should be given a MUCH higher profile in Gentoo,
in my opinion. It is a virtually unknown option.
Another thing th
On Monday 11 January 2010 22:43:18 Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:36:37 -0500, Richard Freeman wrote:
> > On 01/11/2010 06:30 PM, Arnaud Launay wrote:
> >> As a newsmaster, I'm a bit concerned by this.
> >
> > Yeah, inn seems like a really high-profile package to mask for removal.
> >
On Tuesday 12 January 2010 21:40:37 Arnaud Launay wrote:
> Le Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 08:30:26PM +0200, Markos Chandras a écrit:
> > So if you want a package, plz take care of it :)
>
> From a "user" point of view, having submitted ebuilds, patches
> ideas and questions here and there on bugs.go, I m
Le Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 08:30:26PM +0200, Markos Chandras a écrit:
> So if you want a package, plz take care of it :)
From a "user" point of view, having submitted ebuilds, patches
ideas and questions here and there on bugs.go, I must admit I end
up putting up my "contributions" on my local /usr/l
On 01/12/2010 01:30 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
IMHO ( this is not a treecleaners@ opinion, i m just talking for my
self ), announcing and masking a package is a good way to inform and wake up
everybody to take care of this package if they really really want to stay on
portage.
I agree with the
On Tuesday 12 January 2010 20:21:59 Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:32:06 +0200
>
> Markos Chandras wrote:
> > Thanks for saving this package. As Jeremy said, there is absolutely
> > no way to measure the popularity of a package. So if it has no
> > maintainer, and open bugs we hav
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:32:06 +0200
Markos Chandras wrote:
> Thanks for saving this package. As Jeremy said, there is absolutely
> no way to measure the popularity of a package. So if it has no
> maintainer, and open bugs we have to mask it and announce it here. It
> is up to you whether you want
On 01/11/2010 10:43 PM, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
(A general reply, not targeted towards you, Rich)
No prob - my post wasn't really directed personally at anybody.
Speaking on behalf of the treecleaners:
The fact is, some of us have never heard of "inn" and until Gentoo has
some sort of "popularit
On Tuesday 12 January 2010 04:22:05 Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:02:14 +0100
>
> Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> > I'm working on getting 2.5.1 in the tree (and fixing a USE=python and
> > some other issues while I'm at it).
>
> net-nntp/inn-2.5.1 is in the tree and fixes many (QA) iss
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:36:37 -0500, Richard Freeman
wrote:
> On 01/11/2010 06:30 PM, Arnaud Launay wrote:
>>
>> As a newsmaster, I'm a bit concerned by this.
>
> Yeah, inn seems like a really high-profile package to mask for removal.
> It would be conspicuous in its absence.
>
> Would it mak
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:02:14 +0100
Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> I'm working on getting 2.5.1 in the tree (and fixing a USE=python and
> some other issues while I'm at it).
net-nntp/inn-2.5.1 is in the tree and fixes many (QA) issues. Please
track bug #300650 [1] if you want to stay informed of its
st
On 01/11/2010 06:30 PM, Arnaud Launay wrote:
As a newsmaster, I'm a bit concerned by this.
Yeah, inn seems like a really high-profile package to mask for removal.
It would be conspicuous in its absence.
Would it make sense to post on -dev BEFORE masking packages like this?
I'm sure there
Arnaud Launay posted on Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:30:24 +0100 as excerpted:
> Hello,
>
> Le Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:05:16PM +0200, Markos Chandras a écrit:
>> # Markos Chandras (11 Jan 2010) # Fails with
>> -Wl,--as-needed
>> # bug #182782. Removal in 30 days
>> net-nntp/inn
>
> As a newsmaster, I'm
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:30:24 +0100
Arnaud Launay wrote:
> But, if I understand this announce correctly, the complete inn
> port will be dropped to oblivion.
Yes, and that shouldn't (and won't) happen.
> Wouldn't it be better to stabilize inn 2.5 (there's even a 2.5.1
> release out there, with a
Hello,
Le Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:05:16PM +0200, Markos Chandras a écrit:
> # Markos Chandras (11 Jan 2010)
> # Fails with -Wl,--as-needed
> # bug #182782. Removal in 30 days
> net-nntp/inn
As a newsmaster, I'm a bit concerned by this.
By viewing bug #182782 , it seems to me that only inn <=2.4.
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