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On 21/06/12 08:24 PM, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 06:51 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> we're a DISTRO - we integrate and ship what upstream gives us...
>
> RHEL is a distribution, but I understand that RedHat does a great
> deal of upstream progr
On 06/22/2012 01:10 AM, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 06/22/2012 01:02 AM, Duncan wrote:
>> Richard Yao posted on Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:33:22 -0400 as excerpted:
>>
>>> A firmware replacement for the BIOS does not need to worry about floppy
>>> drives, hard drives, optical drives, usb devices, isa devices,
On 06/22/2012 01:02 AM, Duncan wrote:
> Richard Yao posted on Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:33:22 -0400 as excerpted:
>
>> A firmware replacement for the BIOS does not need to worry about floppy
>> drives, hard drives, optical drives, usb devices, isa devices, pci
>> devices and pci express drives, etcetera
Richard Yao posted on Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:33:22 -0400 as excerpted:
> A firmware replacement for the BIOS does not need to worry about floppy
> drives, hard drives, optical drives, usb devices, isa devices, pci
> devices and pci express drives, etcetera, because those live on buses,
> which the ke
On 06/21/2012 06:51 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
>> Roy Bamford wrote:
>>
>>> So when you build a dud kernel and flash your BIOS with it, and we
>>> all build the odd dud, your motherboard is bricked.
>>
>> Any firmware modification has potential to
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Roy Bamford wrote:
>
>> So when you build a dud kernel and flash your BIOS with it, and we
>> all build the odd dud, your motherboard is bricked.
>
> Any firmware modification has potential to brick, and shouldn't be
> done unless you are comfo
Roy Bamford wrote:
> > > I take it the above statement is based on the kernel being
> > > directly placed within the BIOS/firmware/nvram on the board,
This is sometimes called Linux-as-bootloader (LAB/lab for short) in
the coreboot project.
> > > such that you couldn't boot anything else but tha
On 2012.06.21 16:05, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 11:00 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> >> A firmware replacement for the BIOS does not need to worry about
> >> floppy drives, hard drives, optical drives, usb devices, isa
> >> devices, pci devices and pci express drives, etcetera, because
> >>
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On 06/21/2012 11:00 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>> A firmware replacement for the BIOS does not need to worry about
>> floppy drives, hard drives, optical drives, usb devices, isa
>> devices, pci devices and pci express drives, etcetera, because
>>
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On 21/06/12 05:33 AM, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 04:08 AM, Duncan wrote:
>> Richard Yao posted on Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:16:23 -0400 as
>> excerpted:
>>
>>> 3. How does getting a x86 system to boot differ from getting a
>>> MIPS system or ARM s
On 06/21/2012 04:08 AM, Duncan wrote:
> Richard Yao posted on Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:16:23 -0400 as excerpted:
>
>> 3. How does getting a x86 system to boot differ from getting a MIPS
>> system or ARM system to boot? Does it only work because the vendors made
>> it work or is x86 fundamentally harder
Richard Yao posted on Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:16:23 -0400 as excerpted:
> 3. How does getting a x86 system to boot differ from getting a MIPS
> system or ARM system to boot? Does it only work because the vendors made
> it work or is x86 fundamentally harder?
I can answer this one. x86 is harder at t
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