Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-29 Thread Luca Barbato
On 29/04/12 15:40, Zac Medico wrote: > Maybe it's reasonable for the initramfs to utilize a config file from > /etc of the future root filesystem, but having in depend on files from > the future /usr seems like a strange idea. Wouldn't it make more sense > to bundle all dependencies into the initra

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-29 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/29/2012 12:04 AM, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 28/04/12 23:44, Michał Górny wrote: >> I have already opened bugs for many of them. But the list will increase >> in time, and we'll either move a lot of libraries to /lib* or decide to >> go the other way. > > repeat after me EARLY BOOT, as in init

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-29 Thread Luca Barbato
On 28/04/12 23:44, Michał Górny wrote: > I have already opened bugs for many of them. But the list will increase > in time, and we'll either move a lot of libraries to /lib* or decide to > go the other way. repeat after me EARLY BOOT, as in initramfs. In initramfs you don't have /usr with everythi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-28 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:44:57 -0700 Luca Barbato wrote: > On 10/04/12 11:45, William Hubbs wrote: > > There are binaries in /{bin,sbin} which link against libraries in > > /usr/lib for example. > > We could try to have an exact list and figure out exactly what is it > and how impacting it is. If

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-28 Thread Luca Barbato
On 10/04/12 11:45, William Hubbs wrote: > Also, I am going to reiterate what Greg said. This is not an issue with > udev, but with the entire linux ecosystem. As in bluez using dbus and some mount helpers requiring libraries in /usr. > There are binaries in /{bin,sbin} which link against librarie

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/22/2012 10:55 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On 04/22/2012 05:28 AM, Steven J Long wrote: >> Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> >>> | 3. New udev and separate /usr partition (30 minutes) >>> | >>> |See [4]: "Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported >>> |configuration. If it is, newer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Mike Gilbert
On 04/22/2012 05:28 AM, Steven J Long wrote: > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> | 3. New udev and separate /usr partition (30 minutes) >> | >> |See [4]: "Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported >> |configuration. If it is, newer udev can not be stabled and >> |alternatives sh

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Steven J Long
Ulrich Mueller wrote: > | 3. New udev and separate /usr partition (30 minutes) > | > |See [4]: "Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported > |configuration. If it is, newer udev can not be stabled and > |alternatives should be investigated. If it isn't, a lot of > |doc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-11 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:45:04 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:04:22PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:30:01PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > New udev and separate /usr partition > > > > > > Decide on whether a se

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:04:22PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:30:01PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > New udev and separate /usr partition > > > > Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported configuration. > > If it is, newer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:30:01PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> The council has voted in favour of a separate /usr being supported >> (5 yes, 1 no vote). > > What? Perhaps the council should be the ones to clarify, but I think the vote only was

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-08 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:30:01PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > New udev and separate /usr partition > > Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported configuration. > If it is, newer udev can not be stabled and alternatives should be > investigated.