Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:11:31 +0100 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Your proposal does not look to appealing to me. What about people > trying to keep "pollution" down and avoid one or the other toolkit? Some packages don't use a USE flag to pull those in, since the toolkit dependency isn't optiona

[gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/08/2010 05:22 PM, AllenJB wrote: On 08/02/10 14:02, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/08/2010 03:41 PM, AllenJB wrote: On 08/02/10 12:32, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/08/2010 01:39 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: IMHO. USE="X" is for controlling X.org dependencies, not for avoiding everything

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Ben de Groot
On 8 February 2010 16:22, AllenJB wrote: > The current system caters perfectly for both people who want to avoid > specific toolkits and those who don't care what toolkits they use. I agree. The current system is best, in my opinion. Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lx

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Ben de Groot

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread William Hubbs
Hi all, On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 02:34:08PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/08/2010 02:11 PM, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Nikos Chantziaras: > >> A Gnome user probably has "X gtk -qt" in make.conf, while a KDE user > >> has "X qt -gtk" in hope to have programs that support b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread AllenJB
On 08/02/10 14:02, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/08/2010 03:41 PM, AllenJB wrote: >> On 08/02/10 12:32, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 02/08/2010 01:39 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: IMHO. USE="X" is for controlling X.org dependencies, not for avoiding everything that deps on them, so I d

[gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/08/2010 03:41 PM, AllenJB wrote: On 08/02/10 12:32, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/08/2010 01:39 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: IMHO. USE="X" is for controlling X.org dependencies, not for avoiding everything that deps on them, so I disagree. I was under the impression that USE flags are fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread AllenJB
On 08/02/10 12:32, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/08/2010 01:39 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> IMHO. USE="X" is for controlling X.org dependencies, not for avoiding >> everything that deps on them, so I disagree. > > I was under the impression that USE flags are for enabling/disabling > features,

[gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/08/2010 02:16 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/2010 02:12 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/08/2010 01:36 PM, AllenJB wrote: On 08/02/10 11:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Hello. Please don't be too harsh if I got this wrong or if this looks like whining :P A lot of ebuilds seem to ig

[gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/08/2010 02:11 PM, Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hi, Nikos Chantziaras: A Gnome user probably has "X gtk -qt" in make.conf, while a KDE user has "X qt -gtk" in hope to have programs that support both Gtk and Qt being built with the toolkit that is more native to his DE. When a package has a

[gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/08/2010 01:39 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/2010 01:30 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Dne 8.2.2010 12:15, Nikos Chantziaras napsal(a): Hello. Please don't be too harsh if I got this wrong or if this looks like whining :P A lot of ebuilds seem to ignore the "X" USE flag and instead onl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/2010 02:12 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/08/2010 01:36 PM, AllenJB wrote: >> On 08/02/10 11:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> Hello. Please don't be too harsh if I got this wrong or if this looks >>> like whining :P >>> >>> A lot of ebuilds seem to ignore the "X" USE flag and instea

[gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/08/2010 01:36 PM, AllenJB wrote: On 08/02/10 11:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Hello. Please don't be too harsh if I got this wrong or if this looks like whining :P A lot of ebuilds seem to ignore the "X" USE flag and instead only have "gtk", "qt" and the like. This should be declared abs

[gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Nikos Chantziaras : > A Gnome user probably has "X gtk -qt" in make.conf, while a KDE user > has "X qt -gtk" in hope to have programs that support both Gtk and Qt > being built with the toolkit that is more native to his DE. When a > package has a GUI tool that is able to only use one of thos