Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-26 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 25/02/14 15:26, Thomas D. wrote: > No, not locations. My choice was not to use systemd. Now a package, > sys-fs/udev, turns into systemd-udev... > > Also: If it wouldn't be possible to keep sys-fs/udev as it was I > wouldn't bother that much. But as said, Lars (Polynomial-C) showed us > that we

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-26 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 02/26/2014 6:44 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Joshua Kinard wrote: >> Most future Linux systems that are based off of mainstream >> distributions will *have* to use systemd+udev in order to >> achieve maximum functionality. > > Certainly! Clarification: I wasn't implying that that was entirely a go

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:49 AM, Thomas D. wrote: > > I don't see a need for mentioning that the actual configuration is > located in "/lib/systemd/network/..." in the NEWS item. I think it makes sense to keep this in. If somebody doesn't like the default persistent naming conventions then they'

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-26 Thread Peter Stuge
Joshua Kinard wrote: > Most future Linux systems that are based off of mainstream > distributions will *have* to use systemd+udev in order to > achieve maximum functionality. Certainly! And I think the reason systemd gains traction is that such maximum functionality can easily include various thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-26 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 02/25/2014 8:24 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > If someone is willing to change his device manager because a file or > directory name is 'systemd', then by all means, sounds very logical > system maintaince, not. > > - Samuli There is actually a kind of psychological effect on doing it this w

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-26 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, I like your (Alex) new proposal, but I have the following annotations: > As of sys-fs/udev-210, the options CONFIG_FHANDLE and CONFIG_NET > are now required in the kernel. A warning will be issued if they > are missing when you upgrade. See the package's README in > /usr/share/doc/udev-210/ f

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-25 Thread Alex Xu
Title: >=sys-fs/udev-210 upgrade Author: Samuli Suominen Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2014-02-25 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade#udev_208_to_210 [2] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceN

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > I haven't looked into the details as to why a config file is stored in > /lib/systemd, but I imagine that they're trying to store settings in > one place and have them applied to multiple executables (though > obviously by overriding the rule

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Thomas D. wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Thomas D. wrote: >>> Also, I cannot belief that I cannot overwrite >>> "/lib/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules" via "/etc/udev/rules.d"... >> >> I don't see why not - from the news item:

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 25/02/14 14:18, Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 02/25/2014 6:39 AM, Thomas D. wrote: >> Hi, >> >> line 16 ("renamed the file to >> /lib/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules") and line 18 ("you can >> override in /etc/systemd/network/") doesn't end with punctuation. >> >> >> Did I get this right? I am

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-25 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Thomas D. wrote: >> Also, I cannot belief that I cannot overwrite >> "/lib/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules" via "/etc/udev/rules.d"... > > I don't see why not - from the news item: > So, to clarify, you can override the new .rules f

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Thomas D. wrote: > Also, I cannot belief that I cannot overwrite > "/lib/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules" via "/etc/udev/rules.d"... I don't see why not - from the news item: So, to clarify, you can override the new .rules file or the .link file in /etc but u

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-25 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 02/25/2014 6:39 AM, Thomas D. wrote: > Hi, > > line 16 ("renamed the file to > /lib/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules") and line 18 ("you can > override in /etc/systemd/network/") doesn't end with punctuation. > > > Did I get this right? I am using udev to give my interfaces custom names >

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-25 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, line 16 ("renamed the file to /lib/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules") and line 18 ("you can override in /etc/systemd/network/") doesn't end with punctuation. Did I get this right? I am using udev to give my interfaces custom names and I am not a systemd user but to keep my setup working

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 25/02/14 13:03, Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 02/25/2014 5:27 AM, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: >> On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 10:43 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: >>> Here is a bit better worded news item for the upgrade. I think I've >>> taken into account any concerns, but please check >>> the grammar part

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-25 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 02/25/2014 5:27 AM, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 10:43 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> Here is a bit better worded news item for the upgrade. I think I've >> taken into account any concerns, but please check >> the grammar part. Thanks! >> >> - Samuli > > CONFIG_DMIID isn'

Re: [gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-25 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 10:43 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: > Here is a bit better worded news item for the upgrade. I think I've > taken into account any concerns, but please check > the grammar part. Thanks! > > - Samuli CONFIG_DMIID isn't available for ARM. Can we make that warning go away if on

[gentoo-dev] News draft #2 for the udev-210 upgrade (was: 209 upgrade)

2014-02-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
Here is a bit better worded news item for the upgrade. I think I've taken into account any concerns, but please check the grammar part. Thanks! - Samuli Title: Upgrade to >=sys-fs/udev-210 Author: Samuli Suominen Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2014-02-25 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Displa