Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:04:53 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Am Freitag, 22. Juli 2016, 15:57:36 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: > > > > > Wrong. PMS specifically requests you to account for such a > > > > possibility. > > > > > > Common sen

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:04:53 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > 1) If a package only ever had one slot, it cannot ever have two > versions installed at the same time. That guarantee (of only ever one > slot) can be given for the portage tree (sic). Obviously it doesn't > work for overlays, but th

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:30:39 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Oh, nice: strictly follow PMS no matter what, right? Then let me > remind you that not so long time ago I advocated for strictly > following PMS [1,2], which _allows_ || ( A:= B:= ) construct [3]. > > But I was _enforced_ by QA to _viol

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Freitag, 22. Juli 2016, 15:57:36 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: > > > Wrong. PMS specifically requests you to account for such a > > > possibility. > > > > Common sence must prevail over formal approaches. While PMS is > > great, it is not perfect in

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-23 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:49:55 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:41:56 +0300 > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:14:23 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > > > Dnia 22 lipca 2016 13:00:42 CEST, Andrew Savchenko > > > napisał(a): > > > >On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:12:12 +02

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-23 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:38:26 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:23:48 +0300 > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:57:36 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:41:56 +0300 > > > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > [...] > > > > I see no point in trash

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:23:48 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:57:36 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:41:56 +0300 > > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > [...] > > > I see no point in trashing ebuilds with dead code that will never > > > be used. Though if ther

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-23 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:57:36 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:41:56 +0300 > Andrew Savchenko wrote: [...] > > I see no point in trashing ebuilds with dead code that will never > > be used. Though if there will be a PMS or eclass function with > > "proper" implementation,

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-22 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:41:56 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:14:23 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 22 lipca 2016 13:00:42 CEST, Andrew Savchenko > > napisał(a): > > >On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:12:12 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > [...] > > >> Few important QA notes: > > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-22 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:41:56 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:14:23 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 22 lipca 2016 13:00:42 CEST, Andrew Savchenko > > napisał(a): > > >On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:12:12 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > [...] > > >> Few important QA notes: > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-22 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:14:23 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 22 lipca 2016 13:00:42 CEST, Andrew Savchenko > napisał(a): > >On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:12:12 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: [...] > >> Few important QA notes: > >> > >> 1. < is lexicographical comparison, so e.g. 1.6.2.2 < 1.6.18.2 gives >

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-22 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 22 lipca 2016 13:00:42 CEST, Andrew Savchenko napisał(a): >On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:12:12 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 00:22:36 +0300 >> Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> >> > On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:12:01 -0400 Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> > > On 07/20/2016 01:13 PM, NP-Hardass wr

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-22 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:12:12 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 00:22:36 +0300 > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:12:01 -0400 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > On 07/20/2016 01:13 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: > > > > Display-If-Installed: <=net-fs/openafs-kernel-1.6.18.2 >

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-20 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 00:22:36 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:12:01 -0400 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 07/20/2016 01:13 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: > > > Display-If-Installed: <=net-fs/openafs-kernel-1.6.18.2 > > > > > > ... > > > > > > Starting with net-fs/openafs-kernel-1.

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:14:23 -0500 Austin English wrote: > On 07/20/2016 12:13 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: > > This is the first draft of a news item describing a packaging change for > > OpenAFS so that we no longer require the DEBUG_RODATA be turned off. > > Given the security implications of the previ

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:12:01 -0400 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 07/20/2016 01:13 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: > > Display-If-Installed: <=net-fs/openafs-kernel-1.6.18.2 > > > > ... > > > > Starting with net-fs/openafs-kernel-1.6.18.2, this condition is no longer > > forced in the ebuild. > > Might not

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-20 Thread Austin English
On 07/20/2016 12:13 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: > This is the first draft of a news item describing a packaging change for > OpenAFS so that we no longer require the DEBUG_RODATA be turned off. > Given the security implications of the previous setting of having > CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA=n, we thought it prud

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/20/2016 01:13 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: > Display-If-Installed: <=net-fs/openafs-kernel-1.6.18.2 > > ... > > Starting with net-fs/openafs-kernel-1.6.18.2, this condition is no longer > forced in the ebuild. Might not that version bound might backfire if someone upgrades before reading the new

[gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-20 Thread NP-Hardass
This is the first draft of a news item describing a packaging change for OpenAFS so that we no longer require the DEBUG_RODATA be turned off. Given the security implications of the previous setting of having CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA=n, we thought it prudent to ensure that OpenAFS users get notice of the